2/5-6 (SA): Las Virgenes, Thunder Rd, Strub; San Antonio

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Explain the 8 lengths faster part.

Didn't Morning Line, despite having to duel throughout in the Donn, still register a Beyer figure higher than Twirling Candy, who sat in the garden spot throughout awaiting an epic hookup with patented stretch crumbler Indian Firewater, did in the Strub?

Do you even remember that this horse got stuffed in the Goodwood last fall with an identical trip? I know, I know, that was on Cushion track...

Amazing the difference in reputation a horse can earn when running against a field of non-winners 2x allowance foes as opposed to a field featuring a two-time Pacific Classic winner, Hollywood Gold Cup winner, future BC Mile winner, BC Sprint runner-up, etc.

Explain the "sat in the garden spot throughout" isn't that impossible for a run off sprinter?

As for the 8lengths faster its simple..Sadler is improving the animal to be better and reach his potential.

The Goodward experience was a stepping stone vs. a set back as some noted experts hastily summerized. hence their premmature conclusions are devoid of reality.

As for 2x other then field it sucked but the 2011 Donn was hardily the 1997 rendition. Morning line Stem Cell Eddie I Want a leg and Giant slow poke? A telling group

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Explain the "sat in the garden spot throughout" isn't that impossible for a run off sprinter?

It was the garden spot because he had an outclassed sprinter burning himself out on the lead with a bunch of slugs directly behind him. All Rosario had to do was taking a massive hold and put his feet in the dashboard for about 6f and wait for Indian Firewater to die.

As for the 8lengths faster its simple..Sadler is improving the animal to be better and reach his potential.

In other words, you made it up.

The Goodward experience was a stepping stone vs. a set back as some noted experts hastily summerized. hence their premmature conclusions are devoid of reality.

Yes, a stepping stone to the BC Classic.

He failed.

As for 2x other then field it sucked but the 2011 Donn was hardily the 1997 rendition. Morning line Stem Cell Eddie I Want a leg and Giant slow poke? A telling group

Obviously, you don't get what's being said. All those horses are quality speed horses that can stay over a route of ground. Arguably, Twirling Candy has only faced one such horse in his career, that being Crown Of Thorns, who not only dueled with him in the Goodwood for 6f, but also rerallied and put him away down the lane. And Crown Of Thorns is no monster.

What do you think would happen if Twirling Candy had to tackle 3 or 4 such horses as those that lined up in the Donn? I'll concede he probably would have finished in front of Square Eddie.

I realize you have an Atlas-like struggle here hoisting the World of Twirling Candy BS you've created for yourself.

Just don't get yourself hurt when you end up having to shrug...

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

It was the garden spot because he had an outclassed sprinter burning himself out on the lead with a bunch of slugs directly behind him. All Rosario had to do was taking a massive hold and put his feet in the dashboard for about 6f and wait for Indian Firewater to die.



What you fail to comprehend doesnt suggest fiction .



Yes, a stepping stone to the BC Classic.

He needed more time to learn. Failure means the journey ended it is just beginning

Obviously, you don't get what's being said. All those horses are speed horses are either retread laimos or gutsy slowish types with zero future Arguably, Twirling Candy has only faced one such horse in his career, that being Crown Of Thorns, who not only dueled with him in the Goodwood for 6f, but also rerallied and put him away down the lane. And Crown Of Thorns is no monster.

What do you think would happen if Twirling Candy had to tackle 3 or 4 such horses as those that lined up in the Donn? He would have sat comfortably behind them (something you have still failed to admit and suggestted was impossible) and out finished the super slug Giant poison Oak by 5. I'll concede he probably would have finished in front of Square Eddie.

I realize you have an Atlas-like struggle here hoisting the World of Twirling Candy BS you've created for yourself.

Just don't get yourself hurt when you end up having to shrug...

FTFY

I was wrong works for me when I realize I am. Give it a try it frees the soul.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

FTFY

I was wrong works for me when I realize I am. Give it a try it frees the soul.

Hah! You "fixed that for me"?

That was one of the biggest butcher jobs in the history of embedded quote posting on the internet.

Yeah, Twirling Candy would have sat 5th in the Donn, what...4 or 5 lengths off the pace?

His running line in that race would have been:

3-1/2 3-nk 1-hd 2-hd 6-9

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Hah! You "fixed that for me"?

That was one of the biggest butcher jobs in the history of embedded quote posting on the internet.

Yeah, Twirling Candy would have sat 5th in the Donn, what...4 or 5 lengths off the pace?

His running line in that race would have been:

3-1/2 3-nk 1-hd 2-hd 6-9

Wow..you really think TC would have finished 6th in that race? Lay off the sauce

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Wow..you really think TC would have finished 6th in that race? Lay off the sauce

Glad you haven't picked up on any of the hyperbolic tongue-in-cheek back and forth between Freddy and I.

As it stands, Twirling Candy was beaten about 4 lengths by Richard's Kid in the Goodwood when only having to tussle with perennial bridesmaid Crown Of Thorns early.

It's not ridiculous to presume that having to fend off the bulldog Morning Line and pesky has-beens Rule and I Want Revenge after chasing Square Eddie early would have seen him give way even more severely than he did at Hollywood Park.

Not to mention, he's a sensationally overhyped racehorse, the kind jockeys (especially Kent Desormeaux) love to completely stop riding when they are beaten.

[Indian Charlie]

Rollo, I think it is premature to write off a horse based on one race, namely the Goodwood.

Perhaps he just didn't fire his best race that day.

Or, perhaps, as Freddy said, it was a learning experience. Keep in mind that he was still a pretty lightly raced 3yo at that point going against much more experienced older horses.

His overall race record, minus the Goodwood, shows a horse that is still on the improve.