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Old 02-01-2011, 05:23 PM
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How about a little informal voting here to see where DT people who actually took the time to vote ranked some of the ones who have been discussed? At the risk of being ridiculed, here are some of mine with the current top 20 and a few others I feel are misplaced.

Secretariat
Man O War
Seattle Slew
Affirmed
Spectacular Bid
Dr Fager
Forego
Count Fleet-fringe top 50, yeah, more like top 5
Citation- top 5
Kelso

Anyone not have the above as 10?
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Northern Dancer- I gave him 9
John Henry- 9
Sunday Silence- 9
Zenyatta- 9
Ruffian- 9
Alydar -9
Swaps- 9 or 10
Damascus- 9 or 10
Seabiscuit- tough one..9

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Goldlikova- I gave her 10. 3 BC and all those open G1
Cigar- 10
AP Indy- 8. Talented, better sire than compiled results
Native Dancer- 9 because he never beat older horses
Buckpasser- 10
Whirlaway- another tough one. 9 or 10
Barbaro- in the context of top 250, maybe a 6
Eight Belles- seriously, was 2nd in Ky Derby and that was her best. 3
Rachel Alexandra- best 3yo filly I have seen gets you a 9.
Nashua-9
Proviso- top 100? 5
Colin- 9
Lost in the Fog- lost his only tough race. 5
Blind Luck- good 3yo filly, maybe 7
Ouija Board- underrated. Globe trotting mare almost won 3 BC. 9

....oh there are just too many that raced in the last 5 years that are overrated. Almost all of these are champions of high class, but in the context of a "top 250 all time" they just don't measure up.
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Old 02-01-2011, 05:35 PM
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How about a little informal voting here to see where DT people who actually took the time to vote ranked some of the ones who have been discussed? At the risk of being ridiculed, here are some of mine with the current top 20 and a few others I feel are misplaced.

Secretariat
Man O War
Seattle Slew
Affirmed
Spectacular Bid
Dr Fager
Forego
Count Fleet-fringe top 50, yeah, more like top 5
Citation- top 5
Kelso

Anyone not have the above as 10?
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Northern Dancer- I gave him 9
John Henry- 9
Sunday Silence- 9
Zenyatta- 9
Ruffian- 9
Alydar -9
Swaps- 9 or 10
Damascus- 9 or 10
Seabiscuit- tough one..9

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Goldlikova- I gave her 10. 3 BC and all those open G1
Cigar- 10
AP Indy- 8. Talented, better sire than compiled results
Native Dancer- 9 because he never beat older horses
Buckpasser- 10
Whirlaway- another tough one. 9 or 10
Barbaro- in the context of top 250, maybe a 6
Eight Belles- seriously, was 2nd in Ky Derby and that was her best. 3
Rachel Alexandra- best 3yo filly I have seen gets you a 9.
Nashua-9
Proviso- top 100? 5
Colin- 9
Lost in the Fog- lost his only tough race. 5
Blind Luck- good 3yo filly, maybe 7
Ouija Board- underrated. Globe trotting mare almost won 3 BC. 9

....oh there are just too many that raced in the last 5 years that are overrated. Almost all of these are champions of high class, but in the context of a "top 250 all time" they just don't measure up.
I'd rate Zenyatta maybe a 7, and Blind Luck, probably a 5.5 or 6.

I can think of too many fillies/mares that would have embarrassed either of those two on dirt.
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Old 02-01-2011, 05:39 PM
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I'd rate Zenyatta maybe a 7, and Blind Luck, probably a 5.5 or 6.

I can think of too many fillies/mares that would have embarrassed either of those two on dirt.
Im really not sure how Blind Luck can be that close to Z. I know she traveled around, and raced in most of the big races and all, but its not enough for me. At best, like said above she was a good 3yr old filly, who has already came back to get beat this year. If Z is a 10 BL is a 5. If Z is a 7, BL is a 2.
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Old 02-01-2011, 05:46 PM
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Native Dancer- 9 because he never beat older horses
He did win the Met Mile under a 130lbs at age 4.
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