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Old 12-13-2010, 12:03 PM
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6-1 RATIO OR 3-1.
Im not sure how thats close.
You're putting a ton of stock into two stats that are important, but hardly the be all end all of a QB, especially when you understand where they fit into the context of an offense.

You're taking a guy who is having a good year and comparing him to people who have proven year in and year out are very good NFL players.

KC should win the division because their three remaining games are relatively soft (@ St. Louis, vs. Tennessee, vs. Oakland). But, if they are in the 4th quarter of a Wildcard Playoff game against a team like Baltimore trailing 27-23 with 2:00 to go we will all see how Cassel accumulated nice stats playing in an offense where one of the main goals was to keep him from having to do very much.
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:10 PM
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You're putting a ton of stock into two stats that are important, but hardly the be all end all of a QB, especially when you understand where they fit into the context of an offense.

You're taking a guy who is having a good year and comparing him to people who have proven year in and year out are very good NFL players.

KC should win the division because their three remaining games are relatively soft (@ St. Louis, vs. Tennessee, vs. Oakland). But, if they are in the 4th quarter of a Wildcard Playoff game against a team like Baltimore trailing 27-23 with 2:00 to go we will all see how Cassel accumulated nice stats playing in an offense where one of the main goals was to keep him from having to do very much.


Your scenario is horrible. I would barley take Brady vs Baltimore D. That's the best defense in the NFL.
Im talking this year Nick, this year only.
So now because a team can run the QB sucks? The team is built to run, thats a knock on the QB? Sanchez is the WORST QB IN THE NFL, when they dont run. He is literally in the bottom 5. Matt Schaub is a total bum, really surprised you went there.

I would take 15 guys over Peyton Manning so far this year..... He has been horrible.
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:14 PM
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Your scenario is horrible. I would barley take Brady vs Baltimore D. That's the best defense in the NFL.
Im talking this year Nick, this year only.
So now because a team can run the QB sucks? The team is built to run, thats a knock on the QB? Sanchez is the WORST QB IN THE NFL, when they dont run. He is literally in the bottom 5. Matt Schaub is a total bum, really surprised you went there.

I would take 15 guys over Peyton Manning so far this year..... He has been horrible.
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:16 PM
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Your scenario is horrible. I would barley take Brady vs Baltimore D. That's the best defense in the NFL.
Im talking this year Nick, this year only.
So now because a team can run the QB sucks? The team is built to run, thats a knock on the QB? Sanchez is the WORST QB IN THE NFL, when they dont run. He is literally in the bottom 5. Matt Schaub is a total bum, really surprised you went there.

I would take 15 guys over Peyton Manning so far this year..... He has been horrible.
The way he's playing right now, Brady would be a play versus the 85 Bears.

Cassel is rated about 25th in every other relevant pass category, so to say he is in the top 5 because he has a 7:1 td interception ratio is ludicris. Like Bigs said, how does Brees make your list when he is averaging 1 1/2 TD to 1 interception?
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:17 PM
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Your scenario is horrible. I would barley take Brady vs Baltimore D. That's the best defense in the NFL.
Im talking this year Nick, this year only.
So now because a team can run the QB sucks? The team is built to run, thats a knock on the QB? Sanchez is the WORST QB IN THE NFL, when they dont run. He is literally in the bottom 5. Matt Schaub is a total bum, really surprised you went there.

I would take 15 guys over Peyton Manning so far this year..... He has been horrible.
It's not a knock on the QB when a team is built to run but it's a huge knock when you're trying to say that he's one of the best in the league. He's having a good season because they are a well coached offensive unit with a system tailored to their individual players.

Two other things:

1.) Sanchez is not the worst QB in the NFL. I understand you hate the Jets but that's just stupid.

2.) Matt Schaub led the NFL in passing and yds per game last year, finished 5th in TDs, 4th in completion percentage, 7th in QB rating (ahead of guys like Romo, Brady, Warner, E. Manning, McNabb, Flacco, and Matt Ryan). I'm sure you watch very little Houston Texans football but he is not a bum.
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:21 PM
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It's not a knock on the QB when a team is built to run but it's a huge knock when you're trying to say that he's one of the best in the league. He's having a good season because they are a well coached offensive unit with a system tailored to their individual players.

Two other things:

1.) Sanchez is not the worst QB in the NFL. I understand you hate the Jets but that's just stupid.

2.) Matt Schaub led the NFL in passing and yds per game last year, finished 5th in TDs, 4th in completion percentage, 7th in QB rating (ahead of guys like Romo, Brady, Warner, E. Manning, McNabb, Flacco, and Matt Ryan). I'm sure you watch very little Houston Texans football but he is not a bum.

I dislike the Jets. I like and appreciate the talent they have.
Sanchez is horrible. I would take the 3 big college guys to build my team around moving forward right now over Sanchez.
Luck, the kid from Washington and even Cam.
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:30 PM
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Old 12-13-2010, 12:35 PM
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Well, I will agree with RHT that Sanchez isn't much of an NFL quarterback. Is he the worst starter in the league? I know at least the 2010 version of Chad Henne would beg to differ with that assessment. That being said, Sanchez at this point in his career is easily one of the five worst performing starters in the league, though as ateam said earlier in this thread, he's not the Jets only problem on offense.
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