DADT possible vote tonight!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Did you miss where I have repeatedly said I am against that, as it is unfunded, and I want it funded? We can get rid of those ridiculous non-job-producing tax cuts for those earning over 1 million, that will fund half of it readily. I am for a payroll tax deduction, but against it coming from Social Security as it sets a precedence I don't like.

well i'm thrilled the dems turned on Obama and no worries a bunch of new energized faces will be in DC soon. It's too commonly used but this crew has done enough, in fact far too much.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

well i'm thrilled the dems turned on Obama and no worries a bunch of new energized faces will be in DC soon. It's too commonly used but this crew has done enough, in fact far too much.

Because personal dislike issues are more important to you than our massive deficit? I seem to recall you screeching about the cost of this. You are throwing out allies who agree with you simply due to your prejudice against Democrats? Do you have a consistent point of view, Dell?

Let me ask you this, too: are you for the party whose priority is catering to the wealthiest 2% of our country? Who voted down tax cuts for the middle class, who voted down tax cuts for all those who earn up to 1 million dollars, and held out for tax cuts for those richest that earn over 1 million dollars? The party who, for the first time in 48 years, failed to pass a defense appropriations bill, rather than let gay military servicepeople willing to die for their country not have to continue to lie? This is the party making choices you like?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Because personal dislike issues are more important to you than our massive deficit? I seem to recall you screeching about the cost of this. You are throwing out allies who agree with you simply due to your prejudice against Democrats? Do you have a consistent point of view, Dell?

I don't want what this or any other 900 billion dollar anything right now. I want a 900 billion cut. I also think everyone should be taxed at the same percentage (you know equal?). Shrink the government to meet the budget.

[dellinger63]

I'd also suggest rather than worrying about some illegal getting a degree and citizenship we put some of the unemployed maybe even a few who don't have far to go to get a degree back in school and get those people back to work.

BTW sorry RIOT, wasn't aware your ancestors snuck into the country but now understand how you feel the way you do.

[Riot]

I'd also suggest rather than worrying about some illegal getting a degree and citizenship

That would be you having the fit over that

BTW sorry RIOT, wasn't aware your ancestors snuck into the country but now understand how you feel the way you do.

I didn't say they were illegal, you fool, I said they were immigrants. You do know that immigration by foreigners is allowed and perfectly legal? Maybe we should concentrate on programs that teach folks how to read? And teach them some basic American history - such as we are a nation of immigrants? The whole melting pot idea? Think hard, Dell ... when did your "people" come to America? Because even if it was the Mayflower, that makes you just as immigrant as every other single American not American Indian.

[Danzig]

hell will freeze over before the filibuster changes. the party with the majority has an easy excuse for stuff not getting done when the minority blocks it. but they know that when they in turn are the minority, they want that same power. these guys aren't going to do something that would end up hurting them down the road.
as for the dadt filibuster- i said weeks ago that the courts will overturn it, congress and the prez haven't got the guts. a significant portion of the country doesn't want it to change, and no pol is wanting to vote for something that might cost them re-election later. that's why they filibustered, so they wouldn't HAVE to vote.
makes you wonder how much of the stuff being 'bustered is done for a reason. those guys scratch each others' back all the time. look at rangel. hand slapped for his ethics violations, because no one wants to get hard time when it's their turn. why anyone expects anything from any pol, regardless of party, is beyond me. they don't put their country first, their constituents first, they put themselves and the party first.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Danzig

hell will freeze over before the filibuster changes. the party with the majority has an easy excuse for stuff not getting done when the minority blocks it. but they know that when they in turn are the minority, they want that same power. these guys aren't going to do something that would end up hurting them down the road.
as for the dadt filibuster- i said weeks ago that the courts will overturn it, congress and the prez haven't got the guts. a significant portion of the country doesn't want it to change, and no pol is wanting to vote for something that might cost them re-election later. that's why they filibustered, so they wouldn't HAVE to vote.
makes you wonder how much of the stuff being 'bustered is done for a reason. those guys scratch each others' back all the time. look at rangel. hand slapped for his ethics violations, because no one wants to get hard time when it's their turn. why anyone expects anything from any pol, regardless of party, is beyond me. they don't put their country first, their constituents first, they put themselves and the party first.

This is the truth. The first part is good. The second part is bad. The third part is just plain ugly. Why do liberals care about the deficit all the sudden? Where was this onslaught of frugalness when they were cramming through massive spending bills for the last 2 years? Everything is "unfunded" untill they TAKE the money from the taxpayers. It's past time for the Govt. (and a lot of Americans) to live within their means.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

hell will freeze over before the filibuster changes. the party with the majority has an easy excuse for stuff not getting done when the minority blocks it. but they know that when they in turn are the minority, they want that same power. these guys aren't going to do something that would end up hurting them down the road.
as for the dadt filibuster- i said weeks ago that the courts will overturn it, congress and the prez haven't got the guts. a significant portion of the country doesn't want it to change, and no pol is wanting to vote for something that might cost them re-election later. that's why they filibustered, so they wouldn't HAVE to vote.
makes you wonder how much of the stuff being 'bustered is done for a reason. those guys scratch each others' back all the time. look at rangel. hand slapped for his ethics violations, because no one wants to get hard time when it's their turn. why anyone expects anything from any pol, regardless of party, is beyond me. they don't put their country first, their constituents first, they put themselves and the party first.

2/3rds of the country wants DADT to be changes... plus 70% of the military.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I didn't say they were illegal, you fool, I said they were immigrants..

You compared them as though they were the same as the illegals thus I thought they must have snuck in. I guess in your world bank robbers and bank patrons are all just 'people in the bank'

BTW My people came thru Ellis Island like a lot of people and they had to be 'sponsored' you know have a job and place to stay to start out? In fact their SS cards have the employer printed on the back. Not quite as exciting as scaling a fence or hiding in the back of a semi but it was legal.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I'd also suggest rather than worrying about some illegal getting a degree and citizenship we put some of the unemployed maybe even a few who don't have far to go to get a degree back in school and get those people back to work.

BTW sorry RIOT, wasn't aware your ancestors snuck into the country but now understand how you feel the way you do.

[jms62]

DADT should be changed to WGAS .. Who Gives A Shi<t, we have mayny more pressing issues to get fired up about during this depression.