The real party of NO, the GOP, steps it up

SCUDSBROTHER · #1 12-03-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The middle class isnt getting poorer. The Democrats are just lowering the value of Rich. the truth is that if people who make $250k are now considered rich then the rich are getting a lot poorer.

The level of manipulation you are willing to go to is seemingly limitless. Someone making 250k is middle class? That's as manipulative as it gets. They ain't middle class. You can call them what you want. If you really care about them a lot, then, you can try to continue their tax break by cutting a deal with the president. I'm pretty sure he'd go up to at least $500k. He might go up to Shumer's 1 mil. Point is that I think you guys care the most about the people making millions a year. That's what this President needs to expose (if he really wants to run again.) What do you think the percentages are when you ask the American people if they want the tax cuts extended for people making over a million dollars a year? You really willing to go there? Well, if the guy gets smarter (I very much doubt this,) then that's where we will be headed in a couple weeks. My guess is the guy will extend them for everyone (for a limited time.) If your party didn't agree, then, they wouldn't be doing what they're doing.

Antitrust32 · #2 12-03-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

The level of manipulation you are willing to go to is seemingly limitless. Someone making 250k is middle class? That's as manipulative as it gets. They ain't middle class. You can call them what you want. If you really care about them a lot, then, you can try to continue their tax break by cutting a deal with the president. I'm pretty sure he'd go up to at least $500k. He might go up to Shumer's 1 mil. Point is that I think you guys care the most about the people making millions a year. That's what this President needs to expose (if he really wants to run again.) What do you think the percentages are when you ask the American people if they want the tax cuts extended for people making over a million dollars a year? You really willing to go there? Well, if the guy gets smarter (I very much doubt this,) then that's where we will be headed in a couple weeks. My guess is the guy will extend them for everyone (for a limited time.) If your party didn't agree, then, they wouldn't be doing what they're doing.

is it individuals who make 250k or more? or couples who make 250k or more jointly?

If its the latter... that is definately middle class.

Clip-Clop · #3 12-03-2010, 12:23 PM

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is it individuals who make 250k or more? or couples who make 250k or more jointly?

If its the latter... that is definately middle class.

It is families. In some parts of the country that is barely middle class. Frisco, NYC, Boston, most of Jersey.

Antitrust32 · #4 12-03-2010, 12:27 PM

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It is families. In some parts of the country that is barely middle class. Frisco, NYC, Boston, most of Jersey.

yeah i've never heard of anyone making 125k a year being called "rich" before.

Antitrust32 · #5 12-03-2010, 12:29 PM

tho I really wish i was making 125k and I'd feel rich as a single 27 year old with only a dog and car to take care of!

SCUDSBROTHER · #6 12-03-2010, 12:49 PM

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tho I really wish i was making 125k and I'd feel rich as a single 27 year old with only a dog and car to take care of!

Yep, whatever it is, it isn't middle class. 200k/ year for someone single, and 250k/ year for a couple....Neither situation is middle class. Fact is that (you'd see) that if we lift the number up, the Republicans still won't agree to doing away with the tax cut for the people making over a ceiling. If the President will allow it to go there, you'll see this.

Cannon Shell · #7 12-03-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yep, whatever it is, it isn't middle class. 200k/ year for someone single, and 250k/ year for a couple....Neither situation is middle class. Fact is that (you'd see) that if we lift the number up, the Republicans still won't agree to doing away with the tax cut for the people making over a ceiling. If the President will allow it to go there, you'll see this.

No one should get a tax raise during a recession. I dont know how we got here but for some reason people believe that raising taxes on the "rich" will somehow make their lives better. it wont. Raising taxes almost never makes anyones lives better except politicians who get an influx of cash to waste.

Cannon Shell · #8 12-03-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

The level of manipulation you are willing to go to is seemingly limitless. Someone making 250k is middle class? That's as manipulative as it gets. They ain't middle class. You can call them what you want. If you really care about them a lot, then, you can try to continue their tax break by cutting a deal with the president. I'm pretty sure he'd go up to at least $500k. He might go up to Shumer's 1 mil. Point is that I think you guys care the most about the people making millions a year. That's what this President needs to expose (if he really wants to run again.) What do you think the percentages are when you ask the American people if they want the tax cuts extended for people making over a million dollars a year? You really willing to go there? Well, if the guy gets smarter (I very much doubt this,) then that's where we will be headed in a couple weeks. My guess is the guy will extend them for everyone (for a limited time.) If your party didn't agree, then, they wouldn't be doing what they're doing.

You live in LA and think 250k a year (pretax by the way) is rich? I guess you dont get out much. Let me ask you a question since you are so much for equality. Why should people who earn good salaries or create jobs via investment in small business have their taxes increased when everyone elses arent? They already pay a higher percentage than you. They already make more of a contribution than you. Why the discrimination?

SCUDSBROTHER · #9 12-03-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You live in LA and think 250k a year (pretax by the way) is rich? I guess you dont get out much. Let me ask you a question since you are so much for equality. Why should people who earn good salaries or create jobs via investment in small business have their taxes increased when everyone elses arent? They already pay a higher percentage than you. They already make more of a contribution than you. Why the discrimination?

Like I said, I was forced to use a Vet (it's illegal not to.) He charged over $1000 for keeping the dog about 7-8 hours. Fk him. Son Bitch can pay his tax. Goes for all these people that fix the market to make it illegal not to use them. Fk them. You act like they care about the common person with a problem. Bullshyt. They care about that plastic in ya wallet. I can't think of more deserving people to have their taxes raised.

Cannon Shell · #10 12-03-2010, 09:39 PM

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Like I said, I was forced to use a Vet (it's illegal not to.) He charged over $1000 for keeping the dog about 7-8 hours. Fk him. Son Bitch can pay his tax. Goes for all these people that fix the market to make it illegal not to use them. Fk them. You act like they care about the common person with a problem. Bullshyt. They care about that plastic in ya wallet. I can't think of more deserving people to have their taxes raised.

There is no response that i can think of that doesnt insult you or ask you to seek help...soon...

SCUDSBROTHER · #11 12-03-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There is no response that i can think of that doesnt insult you or ask you to seek help...soon...

Well, anybody that doesn't agree with you is gunna be put in (or around) that boat.

Cannon Shell · #12 12-03-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well, anybody that doesn't agree with you is gunna be put in (or around) that boat.

Generally when vet expenses are the basis for your desire to raise taxes there is some sort of underlying issue. Maybe it is the Garvey thing?

SCUDSBROTHER · #13 12-03-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Generally when vet expenses are the basis for your desire to raise taxes there is some sort of underlying issue. Maybe it is the Garvey thing?

Yea, I don't like people that try to get rich off sick animals. Especially when they make it illegal to use somebody else. I don't like that combo. They're greedy, and take advantage of nice people. I want their tax break to go away. Soon as possible.