Republicans blocking START treaty for political gain

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The quotes are immaterial to the issue. The "story" was taken from a radical website and completely oversensationalized.

Nice try, sorry, no. The "issue", as I posted in this thread, was the GOP blocking the START treat simply for political gain.

The "radical website" didn't falsify Lugar's quotes. The website you dislike is only the messenger. We can pick a different one that relays the quotes just as accurately.

The "issue" is not the validity or benefits of any particular treaty. You can start a thread on that if you like. That's just the straw man you put up to distract from the GOP being obstructionist, obstructionist to the point of self-destruction worries by some, and being viewed that way by their very own party seniors.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Nice try, sorry, no. The "issue", as I posted in this thread, was the GOP blocking the START treat simply for political gain.

The "radical website" didn't falsify Lugar's quotes. The website you dislike is only the messenger. We can pick a different one that relays the quotes just as accurately.

The "issue" is not the validity or benefits of any particular treaty. You can start a thread on that if you like. That's just the straw man you put up to distract from the GOP being obstructionist, obstructionist to the point of self-destruction worries by some, and being viewed that way by their very own party seniors.

Your shock that political parties do things for political gain is interesting. Especially considering the newly stated goal of Pelosi to prevent the President from compromising with the GOP.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Your shock that political parties do things for political gain is interesting. Especially considering the newly stated goal of Pelosi to prevent the President from compromising with the GOP.

I'm not shocked in the least. Simply pointing it out for exactly what it is. The extent is unprecedented, though. Let's count the GOP filibusters this last two years, and compare it to every. single. other. year of our countrys history.

You really need to get your Pelosi quote right. Not too into accuracy, are you?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm not shocked in the least. Simply pointing it out for exactly what it is. The extent is unprecedented, though. Let's count the GOP filibusters this last two years, and compare it to every. single. other. year of our countrys history.

You really need to get your Pelosi quote right. Not too into accuracy, are you?

Oh boy...

Maybe someday you will get that Republican and Democratic politicians are almost exactly alike. They all do the same thing, say the same things, do the same things. The way they operate is almost identical. Both pander, both lie, both do anything to get elected and then hold on to that office. They may differ on social or financial theory but essentially they are the same thing.

Instead of debating topics, we wind up with these ridiculous characterizations of the GOP or Palin or someone else on the right INSTEAD of actually talking about the topics.

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Oh boy...

Maybe someday you will get that Republican and Democratic politicians are almost exactly alike.

Maybe someday you'll stop blindly telling other posters what their beliefs or thoughts are, when you haven't got the first real clue what they think.

Instead of debating topics, we wind up with these ridiculous characterizations of the GOP or Palin or someone else on the right INSTEAD of actually talking about the topics.

This topic in this thread is the GOP's repeated blockage of the START Treaty this year, with the treaty about to come up for a vote again in the lame duck session.

This topic is the public comments of the ranking Republican member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee chastising his party's repeated blockages, for political purposes, of a long-standing nuclear arms treaty the party originated and has always supported in the past. And an experienced former Republican Senator concurring and worrying about his party's future.

If you think that is a "ridiculous characterization" of the GOP, perhaps you should blame Republican Senators Lugar and Danforth?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Maybe someday you'll stop blindly telling other posters what their beliefs or thoughts are, when you haven't got the first real clue what they think.



This topic in this thread is the GOP's repeated blockage of the START Treaty this year, with the treaty about to come up for a vote again in the lame duck session.

This topic is the public comments of the ranking Republican member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee chastising his party's repeated blockages, for political purposes, of a long-standing nuclear arms treaty the party originated and has always supported in the past. And an experienced former Republican Senator concurring and worrying about his party's future.

If you think that is a "ridiculous characterization" of the GOP, perhaps you should blame Republican Senators Lugar and Danforth?

Your "beliefs and thoughts" are quite clear. That is painfully obvious.

You can make a complete assesment of the entire political party based on a few quotes of a former Senator found in an opinion piece on an ultra liberal website. Like I said before...

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You can make a complete assesment of the entire political party based on a few quotes of a former Senator found in an opinion piece on an ultra liberal website. Like I said before...

Few quotes? Former? You didn't even read the article? Or you are purposely ignoring half of it? You're ignoring the quotes from Sen. Lugar, the current ranking Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee? Let's read that again:

In particular, Lugar, the ranking GOP member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has blasted his own party for relentlessly blocking ratification of the New START nuclear arms treaty with Russia, calling on his fellow GOP senators to “do your duty for your country” and complete the pact.

My assessment is based upon the factual performance of the Republican party over the past two years - the repeated, unending blocking of routine business with filibuster, blocking motion after motion, blocking debate, the complete failure to compromise in the least. It's no secret. You can read it on the Senate website.

Unless you want to pretend it's all a false creation of a "liberal" website.