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Old 11-23-2010, 03:30 PM
parsixfarms parsixfarms is offline
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Musket Man is horrible.
...and Warrior's Reward is somehow really good?
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:00 PM
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Musket Man, assigned 117 pounds, is one of 10 horses expected for the Cigar Mile. Others expected to run include Girolamo (120 pounds), Haynesfield (120), Bribon (119), Vineyard Haven (119), Friend or Foe (115), Half Metal Jacket (115), Noble’s Promise (115), Jersey Town (114), and Soaring Empire (114).

Wonder where Arson Squad and Our Dark Knight are going then??

In same article, Ryan said Musket Man would definitely come back to run in 2011 as a 5-year-old and most likely be pointed to one-turn races such as the Carter and Met Mile.
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:26 PM
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Musket Man, assigned 117 pounds, is one of 10 horses expected for the Cigar Mile. Others expected to run include Girolamo (120 pounds), Haynesfield (120), Bribon (119), Vineyard Haven (119), Friend or Foe (115), Half Metal Jacket (115), Noble’s Promise (115), Jersey Town (114), and Soaring Empire (114).

Wonder where Arson Squad and Our Dark Knight are going then??

In same article, Ryan said Musket Man would definitely come back to run in 2011 as a 5-year-old and most likely be pointed to one-turn races such as the Carter and Met Mile.
Haynesfield has worked once since the BC. Since 2002 Breeders' Cup horses are 1-13 in the Cigar Mile with Congaree's win in the 2003 edition being the lone victory and he was an absolute monster at Aqueduct.

None of those 13 horses went off more than 10-1.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:10 PM
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...and Warrior's Reward is somehow really good?
Well he did beat Musket Man, in a race where he became a Grade 1 winner.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:40 AM
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Well he did beat Musket Man, in a race where he became a Grade 1 winner.
By what, a nose? And then lost to Musket Man at Churchill and Belmont.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:49 AM
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By what, a nose? And then lost to Musket Man at Churchill and Belmont.
Warrior's Reward finished well ahead of Musket Man at Churchill in the slop.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:58 AM
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Warrior's Reward finished well ahead of Musket Man at Churchill in the slop.
My bad. For some reason, I thought Musket Man had finished second that day (instead of third, where he did finish).
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:22 AM
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My bad. For some reason, I thought Musket Man had finished second that day (instead of third, where he did finish).
Yeah, it was certainly not a remarkable race given it was the high point of Warrior's Reward's season post-Carter and Musket Man and Atta Boy Roy combined to go 1-7 the rest of the way.

Musket Man is not a superstar, but no one has ever made him out to be one. I think he has a decent shot in the Cigar Mile and would hope that if they say they're going to keep him to one turn races next year they actually stick to that plan.
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:43 AM
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Yeah, it was certainly not a remarkable race given it was the high point of Warrior's Reward's season post-Carter and Musket Man and Atta Boy Roy combined to go 1-7 the rest of the way.

Musket Man is not a superstar, but no one has ever made him out to be one. I think he has a decent shot in the Cigar Mile and would hope that if they say they're going to keep him to one turn races next year they actually stick to that plan.
I agree that Musket Man is not a superstar, but I've always respected him a lot. As a son of Yonaguska who came through Tampa and Hawthorne, I always thought his over-achieving Triple Crown efforts last year got lost in the Mine That Bird/ Rachel hoopla.

I also agree that it would be nice to see them stick to the one-turn plan next year. (Look what that did for Big Drama this year.) Not sure what to make of Saturday's race, as I'm leery of these post-Breeders' Cup entrants. The up-and-coming three year-olds, Friend or Foe and Noble's Promise, are interesting in this spot.
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