Musket Man back?
 

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Arson Squad, Bribon, Girolamo, and Musket Man head a list of probable starters for the Grade 1, $250,000 Cigar Mile.

Does it matter? He is a horse Joey S has been right about. I said a long long time ago he wont win a race, maybe they will find a bad Grade 3 for him. Well they have not even been able to do that.

What's your problem with him exactly? His talent level or his bridesmaid tendency?

He probably would have been competitive in the BC Dirt Mile given the pace setup. The cutback from 9-10f races should help.

This race should be worth more money.

What would be the difference if it was worth $400,000?

Semantics

I'm not sure I understand but I'm reasonably certain the field for this race would be the same if the purse was 400k.

He always runs hard. He's going to win one of these. He's always there. I'd be more worried about Friend or Foe.

Quality Road would have won the mile. W/ that pace setup Blame, Zenyatta, L@L and Fly Down would have all won it, right?
That argument sucks. Every single race this horse runs in, he is supposed to win. Why cant he just stink?

No way, jose.

Prolly not with the pace setup, but you get the point. Plus since the BC, several ppl around here not named Joey S or Jose have said that QR would have won it.

You're exaggerating. He's been favored in 3 out of 7 races this year, winning one of those. He's run well chasing the likes of Blame and Quality Road, neither of whom will start in this race.

I hope so!

He has a real good chance and the one I am betting to win. The field is suppose to be

Musket Man
Girolamo
Bribon
Arson Squad
Friend or Foe

Possible
Jersey Town
Regal Ransom
Vineyard Haven
Imperial Council
Our Dark Knight(Heard here or Clark)

I also highly doubt the field would be different if it was more cash.The bigger problem is the Clark is pretty much the same race on the same day. Its like every other bigger race,instead of tracks working together and get a monster field they try to compete with each other and we end up with 2 Ok 6 horse fields. Example would be PA and Super Derby this year

Someone mentioned something before that they should combine 2 or 3 races and offer all the purse from the 3 then the next year run it at the other place. That would be the best but it would never happen

he does not stink. hes just not as good as all the horses you just mentioned. if he runs a level lower, he could win ALOT. i think this horse has a great shot saturday. if he loses to these( at a flat mile)....i'll agree. the state bred even looks ok against this bunch. we can see the effects of the BC....this is pretty much the "has been" bunch that picks up checks where the best horses don't run.

I think he stinks. He needs a perfect trip and a bad field (relatively) to win. Then again, any fatman would beat a field of nonagenarians around the block.

Musket Man's 'defining' race is the MET Mile: perfect setup, with Warrior's Reward providing him with a once-in-a-very-fortuitous-career setup, and he hangs like a rat.

And people want to give this horse the benefit of the doubt?

But he did 'PRESS' QR in the QR in the Whitney, didn't he? :rolleyes: So that has to count for something. (Which was the trip that got at least one of the INTELLIGENCIA on to QR in the Classic. ha ha ha)

It's interesting to see how different people handle losing. Some work harder, look inside themselves, and try to figure out what they might be doing wrong, and use this to attempt to stem the tide.

And....some people crack up.

Musket Man is horrible. The fact that you touted him for weeks leading into the Classic really made me wonder. Watching the MSG/NYRA show w/ friends I said to myself, this is easily his worst pick that I can ever remember him making.

:tro:

I've been a fan of this horse for some time now but I suddenly love him even more.