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Old 11-23-2010, 12:03 PM
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I think he stinks. He needs a perfect trip and a bad field (relatively) to win. Then again, any fatman would beat a field of nonagenarians around the block.

Musket Man's 'defining' race is the MET Mile: perfect setup, with Warrior's Reward providing him with a once-in-a-very-fortuitous-career setup, and he hangs like a rat.

And people want to give this horse the benefit of the doubt?

But he did 'PRESS' QR in the QR in the Whitney, didn't he? So that has to count for something. (Which was the trip that got at least one of the INTELLIGENCIA on to QR in the Classic. ha ha ha)
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Old 11-23-2010, 12:17 PM
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It's interesting to see how different people handle losing. Some work harder, look inside themselves, and try to figure out what they might be doing wrong, and use this to attempt to stem the tide.

And....some people crack up.
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:49 PM
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It's interesting to see how different people handle losing. Some work harder, look inside themselves, and try to figure out what they might be doing wrong, and use this to attempt to stem the tide.

And....some people crack up.
Musket Man is horrible. The fact that you touted him for weeks leading into the Classic really made me wonder. Watching the MSG/NYRA show w/ friends I said to myself, this is easily his worst pick that I can ever remember him making.
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Old 11-23-2010, 03:30 PM
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Musket Man is horrible.
...and Warrior's Reward is somehow really good?
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:00 PM
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Musket Man, assigned 117 pounds, is one of 10 horses expected for the Cigar Mile. Others expected to run include Girolamo (120 pounds), Haynesfield (120), Bribon (119), Vineyard Haven (119), Friend or Foe (115), Half Metal Jacket (115), Noble’s Promise (115), Jersey Town (114), and Soaring Empire (114).

Wonder where Arson Squad and Our Dark Knight are going then??

In same article, Ryan said Musket Man would definitely come back to run in 2011 as a 5-year-old and most likely be pointed to one-turn races such as the Carter and Met Mile.
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:26 PM
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Musket Man, assigned 117 pounds, is one of 10 horses expected for the Cigar Mile. Others expected to run include Girolamo (120 pounds), Haynesfield (120), Bribon (119), Vineyard Haven (119), Friend or Foe (115), Half Metal Jacket (115), Noble’s Promise (115), Jersey Town (114), and Soaring Empire (114).

Wonder where Arson Squad and Our Dark Knight are going then??

In same article, Ryan said Musket Man would definitely come back to run in 2011 as a 5-year-old and most likely be pointed to one-turn races such as the Carter and Met Mile.
Haynesfield has worked once since the BC. Since 2002 Breeders' Cup horses are 1-13 in the Cigar Mile with Congaree's win in the 2003 edition being the lone victory and he was an absolute monster at Aqueduct.

None of those 13 horses went off more than 10-1.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:10 PM
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...and Warrior's Reward is somehow really good?
Well he did beat Musket Man, in a race where he became a Grade 1 winner.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:40 AM
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Well he did beat Musket Man, in a race where he became a Grade 1 winner.
By what, a nose? And then lost to Musket Man at Churchill and Belmont.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:49 AM
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By what, a nose? And then lost to Musket Man at Churchill and Belmont.
Warrior's Reward finished well ahead of Musket Man at Churchill in the slop.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:47 AM
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Musket Man is horrible. The fact that you touted him for weeks leading into the Classic really made me wonder. Watching the MSG/NYRA show w/ friends I said to myself, this is easily his worst pick that I can ever remember him making.
this tells me. you really don't know how to bet. musket man was ok relative to price....the worst bets were people picking looking at lucky and blind luck. when people pick overmatched horses at SHORT odds...thats the definition of a bad pick. you should really learn a thing or two before acting like an expert. but then again i love when folks like you bet.
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Old 11-24-2010, 11:54 AM
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this tells me. you really don't know how to bet. musket man was ok relative to price....the worst bets were people picking looking at lucky and blind luck. when people pick overmatched horses at SHORT odds...thats the definition of a bad pick. you should really learn a thing or two before acting like an expert. but then again i love when folks like you bet.


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Old 11-23-2010, 03:00 PM
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I think he stinks.
I've been a fan of this horse for some time now but I suddenly love him even more.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:31 AM
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I think he stinks. He needs a perfect trip and a bad field (relatively) to win. Then again, any fatman would beat a field of nonagenarians around the block.

Musket Man's 'defining' race is the MET Mile: perfect setup, with Warrior's Reward providing him with a once-in-a-very-fortuitous-career setup, and he hangs like a rat.

And people want to give this horse the benefit of the doubt?

But he did 'PRESS' QR in the QR in the Whitney, didn't he? So that has to count for something. (Which was the trip that got at least one of the INTELLIGENCIA on to QR in the Classic. ha ha ha)
you are right...."stinks" is relative . but its not like he loses the first at aqueduct against 7,500 claimers. he pretty much loses against the best around. if they were a little more realistic with ENTERING this horse i think he could beat this bunch he faces saturday REGULARLY. he probably would of had a good shot in that ridiculous mile a few weeks ago. but he ran where he had no shot whatsoever. of course, everything i'm saying is wrong if he gets trounced saturday. if this horse loses by anything more than length....he does suck!
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