Zenyatta Has Earned Horse of the Year

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Since you are so into history, can you please name for me those performances, since Lady's Secret, by an older female on dirt against males that were superior to Zenyatta's Breeders' Cup Classic?

Jolypha.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Jolypha.

Oops. It was supposed to be an older female. Jolypha was a 3yo filly going against older males.

And everyone knows that 3yo fillies are much more advanced than 4 or 5 or 6 year old fillies/mares!

At least according to ass handicapper.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Jolypha.

she sure franked that form the next season when she kept running into a great horse in Flawlessly.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

she sure franked that form the next season when she kept running into a great horse in Flawlessly.

What do you mean by 'franked'?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

she sure franked that form the next season when she kept running into a great horse in Flawlessly.

Isn't comparing turf races and dirt races like comparing apples to oranges?

The consistency on this thread is pathetic.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Isn't comparing turf races and dirt races like comparing apples to oranges?

The consistency on this thread is pathetic.

I think her suck up third was mostly likely a total illusion, certainly I thought Pleasant Tap was running a very weak second to a dominant winner that day.

I think Jolypha was better on turf but if you think its dirt thats fine, I have no way to say it was not.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I think her suck up third was mostly likely a total illusion, certainly I thought Pleasant Tap was running a very weak second to a dominant winner that day.

I think Jolypha was better on turf but if you think its dirt thats fine, I have no way to say it was not.

What do you mean by "suck up"?

A rapid early pace that led to a meltdown with a bunch of closers coming to pick up all the pieces?

Actually, Jolypha was positioned in front of both AP Indy and Pleasant Tap early in the race--only 3 lengths off a :45+ half, but had to alter course to the inside of Sultry Song at the 3/8s, allowing the other two to move past her approaching the stretch, yet she had enough turn of foot to split horses and get back in front of Pleasant Tap midstretch, only to hang late.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

What do you mean by "suck up"?

A rapid early pace that led to a meltdown with a bunch of closers coming to pick up all the pieces?

Actually, Jolypha was positioned in front of both AP Indy and Pleasant Tap early in the race--only 3 lengths off a :45+ half, but had to alter course to the inside of Sultry Song at the 3/8s, allowing the other two to move past her approaching the stretch, yet she had enough turn of foot to split horses and get back in front of Pleasant Tap midstretch, only to hang late.

That's the very definition for the term "suck up third"

[slotdirt]

It's easy to dismiss Southern Image because of his frailty, but when that horse was good, he was pretty good. No shame in finishing second to him.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That's the very definition for the term "suck up third"

Really? Even with her momentum being stopped at a critical moment?

Would Indian Charlie's 3rd in the Kentucky Derby be considered a "suck up"?