Weekend Stakes Beyers

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Off the top of my head I can really only think of:


Affirmed
Secretariat
Citation
Kelso
Count Fleet
Dr. Fager
Native Dancer
Forego
Seattle Slew
Spectacular Bid
Tom Fool
Man O' War
War Admiral
Buckpasser
Colin
Damascus
Cigar
Bold Ruler
Swaps
Phar Lap
John Henry
Nashua
Seabiscuit
Whirlaway
Alydar
Ruffian
Alysheba
Northern Dancer
Sword Dancer
Riva Ridge
Slew o'Gold
Native Diver
Silver Charm
Holy Bull
Sunday Silence
Easy Goer
Skip Away


But I'm sure there are probably several dozen more that I'm not thinking about.

She's never lost a race and won 17 graded stakes races in a row. I can't recall if any of the one's you mention did that or not, can you? It doesn't make her better than them, but "one of the" shouldn't be discounted.

From what I can tell none of those have run this century. How is Zenatta overshadowing them?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

From what I can tell none of those have run this century. How is Zenatta overshadowing them?

You know her name is Zenyatta, right?

[NoLuvForPletch]

I'd say typo but i did it twice. But yes I know her name is Zenyatta.

Thanks

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

She's never lost a race and won 17 graded stakes races in a row. I can't recall if any of the one's you mention did that or not, can you? It doesn't make her better than them, but "one of the" shouldn't be discounted.

Let's take a look at just one horse off the list....I'll pick....Affirmed.
Did he win 17 in a row? Nope.
Winning 17 in a row isn't particularly easy when you race against Alydar, Exceller, Seattle Slew, Spectacular Bid, Coastal, Sensitive Prince, etc. time after time....over the course of a career.
So if you ask me who accomplished more between Affirmed and Zenyatta, to me, it isn't even close....despite her impressive streak.

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Let's take one horse off the list....Affirmed.
Did he win 17 in a row? Nope.
Winning 17 in a row isn't particularly easy when you race against Alydar, Exceller, Seattle Slew, Spectacular Bid, Coastal, Sensitive Prince, etc. time after time....over the course of a career.
So if you ask me who accomplished more between Affirmed and Zenyatta, to me, it isn't even close....despite her impressive streak.

That's cool. I like Affirmed and a whole lot of others on the list of "all time greats" on the list you supplied. I'm just saying there is no need to omit her from the list because you don't think she is the best of all time. I don't think she is the best of all time either. See we can agree on something.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

That's cool. I like Affirmed and a whole lot of others on the list of "all time greats" on the list you supplied. I'm just saying there is no need to omit her from the list because you don't think she is the best of all time. I don't think she is the best of all time either. See we can agree on something.

Unfortunately for everyone....a great deal of where she "deserves" to be ranked on a list of say, the top-50 thoroughbreds of all time, has been left up to one race because of her foolish connections. If she wins the BCC in style it would be difficult to justify completely keeping her off such a list no matter how much some (including me) might want to do it.
If she runs poorly and finishes off the board, however, it should be pretty easy for everyone to keep her off such a list, although I'm certain many still won't.