Left guard for the Jets....

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Yep. They seem intent on keeping a stable of fullbacks - and their best wideout Santonio Negron Holmes Jr. will be out for the first four games. It really does look like Sanchez will be handing off as much or more than Kyle Boller did when he was a starter with the Ravens a few years ago when Rex Ryan was a defensive coach on that team.

[Dahoss]

Of course Sanchez will be handing the ball off a lot. That is the type of team the Jets are. They are never going to be a pass first team. They aren't built that way.

Great defense and a solid running game is their gameplan. Sanchez's main responsibility is to not turn the ball over. If he plays like he has in the preseason, it's going to be a long year.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Of course Sanchez will be handing the ball off a lot. That is the type of team the Jets are. They are never going to be a pass first team. They aren't built that way.

Great defense and a solid running game is their gameplan. Sanchez's main responsibility is to not turn the ball over. If he plays like he has in the preseason, it's going to be a long year.

Hoss you think they have enough RB talent to carry them. That terminator kid may end up playing more FB because he appears to be a human battering ram but where's the speed coming from with them?

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Hoss you think they have enough RB talent to carry them. That terminator kid may end up playing more FB because he appears to be a human battering ram but where's the speed coming from with them?

Greene is the real deal.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Hoss you think they have enough RB talent to carry them. That terminator kid may end up playing more FB because he appears to be a human battering ram but where's the speed coming from with them?

I think so. For some reason Shonn Greene has gotten absolutley zero camera time on Hard Knocks but he's their starting RB. He ran for 540 yards last year while splitting time with Jones. He's pretty good and the Jets thought enough of him to get rid of Thomas Jones. If anyone remembers the playoff games last year, he was their go to guy.

By all accounts LT has looked fantastic in preseason. I know it's tough to gauge a whole lot from preseason (unless you are a Pats fan) but he's a pretty solid backup.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yep. They seem intent on keeping a stable of fullbacks - and their best wideout Santonio Negron Holmes Jr. will be out for the first four games. It really does look like Sanchez will be handing off as much or more than Kyle Boller did when he was a starter with the Ravens a few years ago when Rex Ryan was a defensive coach on that team.

How can they not give into Reevis given the horror of the offensive side of the ball. Back up QB didn't seem to be a rocket scientist either. They have to be thinking the defense is where the points are but only if Reevis plays.

[miraja2]

In this day and age practically no team has 22 good starters. The Jets have a big question mark at left guard that everybody suddenly knows about now because of a tv show. Okay fine, but every other team in the league has at least one question mark somewhere. I like watching Hard Knocks too, but the idea that someone can figure out how good a team is going to be by watching an edited hour of that team each week is laughable. It is akin to someone using TVG's "Finish Line" show as a handicapping tool.

The Jets should be a playoff contender for sure. I see them as somewhere between 8-8 and 10-6 if they have to play without their CB, and probably between 9-7 and 11-5 with him.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I like watching Hard Knocks too, but the idea that someone can figure out how good a team is going to be by watching an edited hour of that team each week is laughable.

Maybe so ... but you can certainly figure out how bad a teams two left guards are by watching a single episode.

Sanchez after breaking every single huddle on a passing play "C'mon Vlad!" - or - "Let's Go Vlad!" - or "try to not get me killed, Vlad!"

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Maybe so ... but you can certainly figure out how bad a teams two left guards are by watching a single episode.

Sanchez after breaking every single huddle on a passing play "C'mon Vlad!" - or - "Let's Go Vlad!" - or "try to not get me killed, Vlad!"

I'm not sure that Sanchez getting hurt wouldn't be a blessing in disguise for them. Would 55 year old Mark Brunell, QB turned WR Brad Smith, or the bad penny Kellen Clemens be that much worse?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Brunell was pretty damn good like 15 years ago.

Probably was a lot better running and scrambling quarterback in that league than Tebow will ever prove to be.

The Broncos will probably have Tebow run 6-to-10 plays a game all year long out of the Wild Jesus formation. He's Pat White - minus the whole speed and moves thingy.

[randallscott35]

That's alright, ateam says 13-3, no prob.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by miraja2

In this day and age practically no team has 22 good starters. The Jets have a big question mark at left guard that everybody suddenly knows about now because of a tv show. Okay fine, but every other team in the league has at least one question mark somewhere. I like watching Hard Knocks too, but the idea that someone can figure out how good a team is going to be by watching an edited hour of that team each week is laughable. It is akin to someone using TVG's "Finish Line" show as a handicapping tool.

The Jets should be a playoff contender for sure. I see them as somewhere between 8-8 and 10-6 if they have to play without their CB, and probably between 9-7 and 11-5 with him.

the last place I want to have a hole on my team is on the offensive line. Most important part of a football team. I'd much rather have a shaky linebacker, or reciever, or even QB or RB. Great O-line can make an average QB look good.. and make an average RB look unbelievable.

Eagles biggest question mark is their O-line. injuries, Stacy Andrews sucks, its really shaky. Making me nervous going into the season.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

the last place I want to have a hole on my team is on the offensive line. Most important part of a football team. I'd much rather have a shaky linebacker, or reciever, or even QB or RB. Great O-line can make an average QB look good.. and make an average RB look unbelievable.

Eagles biggest question mark is their O-line. injuries, Stacy Andrews sucks, its really shaky. Making me nervous going into the season.

I agree.

And the plays they showed on HBO and the stuff the coaching staff was saying about the position makes it seem pretty bad. I'm just saying that none of us really know how the Jets' o-line will really function. They have a couple of really solid guys in the unit. Of course, it only takes one weak link to make a bad o-line, but I'm not going to make many evaluations of a given position or player based simply on what HBO decides will make the most compelling television.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

the last place I want to have a hole on my team is on the offensive line. Most important part of a football team. I'd much rather have a shaky linebacker, or reciever, or even QB or RB. Great O-line can make an average QB look good.. and make an average RB look unbelievable.

Eagles biggest question mark is their O-line. injuries, Stacy Andrews sucks, its really shaky. Making me nervous going into the season.

I know you strongly disagree, but I think there is a good chance that Eagles' fans realize this year how good they had it with McNabb. The guy throws picks at the lowest rate in the history of the league. He sure didn't lose very many games for them over the last decade, and I'm not at all convinced that will be the case with Kolb.

[ateamstupid]

Yawn.

Slauson is adequate, Vlad sucked in preseason. Faneca was a below average pass blocker last year and we were fine. This is the best you could do?

And whoever questioned whether the Jets have enough RB talent to run the ball, well, this is why it's impossible for me to take DT football conversations seriously.

The last thing any Patriot 'fan' should be clowning on someone else about is their LG. With Logan Mankins' holdout and the injury to Nick Kaczur, you're down to your third-string at that spot. But I wouldn't expect DrugS to have any idea what I'm talking about.

[nebrady]

Ok stupid have you noticed that are offense is looking great while your offense is like your "yawn". Wake me up when it scores! Brady looks awesome even with the problems on the o-line and the rookie te Gronkowski looks great. Who needs a running game when we can throw on you all day! As for the jets, without revis your defense isn't the same! Can't wait to go down and beat you in your new "meadowlands" dump. After that week you will be hearing jets fans crying about how the offense sucks and pay reavis his money! This just in the jets have missed the runway and crashed and burned. LOL

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yawn.

Slauson is adequate, Vlad sucked in preseason. Faneca was a below average pass blocker last year and we were fine. This is the best you could do?

And whoever questioned whether the Jets have enough RB talent to run the ball, well, this is why it's impossible for me to take DT football conversations seriously.

The last thing any Patriot 'fan' should be clowning on someone else about is their LG. With Logan Mankins' holdout and the injury to Nick Kaczur, you're down to your third-string at that spot. But I wouldn't expect DrugS to have any idea what I'm talking about.

Dont worry... Pats are going to move a blocking TE to that position

(yes, I am a huge fan of said blocking TE though)

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I know you strongly disagree, but I think there is a good chance that Eagles' fans realize this year how good they had it with McNabb. The guy throws picks at the lowest rate in the history of the league. He sure didn't lose very many games for them over the last decade, and I'm not at all convinced that will be the case with Kolb.

Eagles regular season record looked much better than what they actually were last year.

It was very evident the 3 times we played the Cowgirls. We were not a very good football team last year. And this year we are even younger.

I agree Kolb might have growing pains, and even cost us a game. I'm perfectly fine "growing" this season.. though I do still expect us to be a playoff contender. I'm really excited about Kolb and his future and not going to miss McNabb even if we go 7-9.

We werent going to win the Superbowl this year with #4 or #5. we are too young and are O-line is really suspect. I'm hoping I can eat these words, but I have realistic expectations.

But the O-line is easily the weakest link on the team. And if Kolb gets hit hard every time he drops back to pass, he will REALLY struggle (and so would anyone). I have 100 times more confidence in Kolb than the O-line. Stacy Andrews is garbage. He should join his brother on the Giants.

If Eagles fans use the 2010 season as a base to "missing McNabb".. than Eagles fans are even dumber than what you all already think of us.

It would be like Packers fans using 2008 to judge Rodgers and missing Farve.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I know you strongly disagree, but I think there is a good chance that Eagles' fans realize this year how good they had it with McNabb. The guy throws picks at the lowest rate in the history of the league. He sure didn't lose very many games for them over the last decade, and I'm not at all convinced that will be the case with Kolb.

You won't find anyone that holds McNabb in higher regards than I do, but there is more than meets the eye with his INT per PASS ATTEMPT stat. He never really tried to thread the needle with the majority of his passes. If he thought there was a chance of an interception, he'd miss his target by a mile (short or long). Some faulted him for that, some praised him for rarely turning the ball over. I think Kolb will take more chances with the football, and it remains to be seen where it takes us. There will be a learning curve, for sure, but I'm inclined to see how his style meshes with these receivers before I label the McNabb trade a heady one or a bone-heady one.

One HUGE difference that we'll see is that Kolb will get rid of the ball when under pressure, whereas McNabb tried to extend the play with his body strength, almost always shrugging off first contact. That was my biggest peeve with him, instead of unloading the ball just before he is rushed out of bounds, he'd hold onto it and take a 4 yard loss, then laugh it off.

[ateamstupid]

I got this one Hoss.