Obama's support for Ground Zero Mosque

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Freedom of Religion is not just about being able to open a place of worship. It's also about:

1) being able to leave a religion without your life being threatened.

2) not having to change your life simply because someone from a certain religion wants you to.

3) Many people don't like religion, and they need protection from all people that do like religion.

Each and every damn day in this country, we fail miserably at these 3 things. Why is it that the religious freedom of this one group (who have a ton of mosques on this island already) is so paramount, and we don't care about other people's religious freedom at all? There are plenty of counties in this country that won't sell you alcohol on Sundays. Utah has weird rules about what part of the day you can buy alcohol. We have a right to be protected from people in these religions involved, but we never are. Yet, when this religious group feels pressure against them building a mosque at a sensitive site, every Liberal with a pulse cares deeply about religious freedom. Where's your concern about the freedom to leave a religion? You're real spotty with your concern about religious freedom. You could not care less about whether Moslem women have the freedom to leave a religion they may not want anymore. That freedom is not that important to you, but the location of the Mosque she's forced to go to is very important to you. They must have that Mosque exactly where they choose.

I wonder what Riot's defense is about the Koran saying that anyone that leaves Islam must die. I don't know how she could defend that. She probably won't. She'll just say that we're the bad ones for bringing it up. How dare you bring that up! You are a racist and a bigot!

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I wonder what Riot's defense is about the Koran saying that anyone that leaves Islam must die. I don't know how she could defend that. She probably won't. She'll just say that we're the bad ones for bringing it up. How dare you bring that up! You are a racist and a bigot!

You are worse than Hitler!!

[clyde]

Anyone leaving the Dooryard must die.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92d1xtjXf8E

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I wonder what Riot's defense is about the Koran saying that anyone that leaves Islam must die. I don't know how she could defend that. She probably won't. She'll just say that we're the bad ones for bringing it up. How dare you bring that up! You are a racist and a bigot!

i'm figuring the powers that be in rome wish they'd thought of it.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'm figuring the powers that be in rome wish they'd thought of it.

I've heard that it's sometimes hard to leave Scientology once you become a member. They will sometimes harrass people and make their life miserable if they try to leave the group.

I hope Riot isn't a Scientology apologist. If she is, she'll probably call me a Scientology-phobe.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I've heard that it's sometimes hard to leave Scientology once you become a member. They will sometimes harrass people and make their life miserable if they try to leave the group.

I hope Riot isn't a Scientology apologist. If she is, she'll probably call me a Scientology-phobe.

Too bad she's right about so much that you guys just hate on

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Too bad she's right about so much that you guys just hate on

I'm a hateful person? Ok, whatever you say Bob.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I'm a hateful person? Ok, whatever you say Bob.

Aren't you the one who has been going on for pages now about Riot misrepresenting other people's posts?

Being right about something you "hate on" doesn't translate to calling someone a "hateful person."

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Aren't you the one who has been going on for pages now about Riot misrepresenting other people's posts?

Being right about something you "hate on" doesn't translate to calling someone a "hateful person."

What is the definition of a hateful person? Someone who hates. If Bob is saying that I hate Muslims, that would make me a "hateful person".

Do you have another definition of a "hateful person"?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Too bad she's right about so much that you guys just hate on

You're kidding,right?!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Too bad she's right about so much that you guys just hate on

oh please

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I've heard that it's sometimes hard to leave Scientology once you become a member. They will sometimes harrass people and make their life miserable if they try to leave the group.

I hope Riot isn't a Scientology apologist. If she is, she'll probably call me a Scientology-phobe.

i know if you leave the mormon religion, you've pretty much severed ties with family and friends. but, it's better than dead.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i know if you leave the mormon religion, you've pretty much severed ties with family and friends. but, it's better than dead.

There are quite a few Mormons in the town I live (I know quite a few), and that's not true here in the least. Maybe they are not "real" Mormons.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

There are quite a few Mormons in the town I live (I know quite a few), and that's not true here in the least. Maybe they are not "real" Mormons.

i just know what i've read and seen in the past. may not be so much a case elsewhere, but in salt lake city and the surrounding environs, it's very much the way it is. i've seen former mormons talking about it, most recently when i finally watched bill maher's religulous.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i just know what i've read and seen in the past. may not be so much a case elsewhere, but in salt lake city and the surrounding environs, it's very much the way it is. i've seen former mormons talking about it, most recently when i finally watched bill maher's religulous.

I think there are (obviously, as with all other religions) different sects, church groups, followers, that don't take some things literally, etc. Not all Baptist, Lutheran, Christian, Catholic church groups are the same.

Excerpt from Bob Cesca today, in HuffPost, "The Summer of Republican Race-Baiting" Discusses Obama as Muslim, Shirley Sherrod, anchor babies, and:

The Park51 community center.

The Republicans are making another attempt to brand September 11th. But this time, there's a bonus racial component emerging in the usual anti-Muslim fear-mongering. A considerable number of American Muslims happen to be black, so not only does the Park51 issue serve to tweak jingoistic and religious bellicosity, but it also tosses African Americans into the mix.

The most obvious example of the latter is the disgusting video footage of an African American carpenter (who happens to be working on the new 1 World Trade Center tower) being accosted by a mob of screaming white protesters outside the old Burlington Coat Factory building. His trespass? He apparently seemed Muslim-ish to the crowd -- even after he shouted, "I'm not even Muslim!" I suppose his choice of a white Under Armour hat and his, you know, blackness screamed "evildoer." As we all know, Under Armour is a major supplier of popular sportswear and radical Islamic headgear. Hating America for its freedom requires fabric that wicks moisture (feel free to use that in your next commercial, Under Armour).

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I wonder what Riot's defense is about the Koran saying that anyone that leaves Islam must die. I don't know how she could defend that. She probably won't. She'll just say that we're the bad ones for bringing it up. How dare you bring that up! You are a racist and a bigot!

If either Scuds or you were as knowledgable about Islam as you thought you were, you'd know that only a certain subset follows that part of Sharia law. I know that doesn't fit into the non-stop "I'm justified" hate meme. Yup.

[Riot]

An American taxi-driver in NY was stabbed yesterday. His drunk passenger got in and asked him if he was Muslim, and when he said yes, he was stabbed.

The taxi driver will be okay. The offender is being charged with attempted murder as hate crime.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_694285.html

Of course, the nonstop "hate Muslim" crap on the internet and TV didn't have a damn thing to do with that. Naw, no ginning up of hate there, making it "publicly acceptable" to hate Muslims.

Maybe it proves "all Christians" are religious murderers, though ... hum ....

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

If either Scuds or you were as knowledgable about Islam as you thought you were, you'd know that only a certain subset follows that part of Sharia law. I know that doesn't fit into the non-stop "I'm justified" hate meme. Yup.

Which subset is responsible for the 112 cars a day being burned in France and then all the new unrest in England? How would you handle it if that violent action came near you?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Which subset is responsible for the 112 cars a day being burned in France and then all the new unrest in England?

You tell me, Timmi. Do you think age or poverty or lack of jobs has anything to do with that? What sect to you think flew airplanes into the Pentagon and WTC? How would you handle that? Round up all the Muslims in America, maybe put them in interment camps?