Obama's support for Ground Zero Mosque

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

if we're going to successful in the struggle against religious extremism, we need to educate ourselves enough that we can distinguish between terrorists and muslims.

some muslims are going to be terrorists. a lot of terrorists are going to be muslim. i get all that.

but i think the united states vs. muslims is a much tougher fight than the united states vs. terrorists and i just hope we don't waste so much time jerking off over what serves narrow short term political gain that we lose sight of what actually matters for our long term benefit.

sufis are the unitarians of the the islamic world. if we don't have them on our side, we've taken on a much tougher fight than needed.

You do realize that the guy who shot up the Army in Texas wasn't a career terrorist. The guy who left a bomb in Manhattan (this last year) was also not a career terrorist. There is a risk that some otherwise peaceful Moslem going to this Mosque loses it, and starts shooting tourists over at ground zero. Just like insurance companies study risk, there is a level of risk here that I think is higher with members of this religion. I think putting a Mosque that close is highly questionable in judgement. I think it'd be safer for everyone involved if they show some better judgement. The reason there is a higher risk with this religion is because their prophet encouraged them to do these things to non-Muslims. It's not because someone has done something to them. They're prophet is the problem. They can blame their ways on a lot of people, but their prophet is the cause of all of this killing.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

You do realize that the guy who shot up the Army in Texas wasn't a career terrorist. The guy who left a bomb in Manhattan (this last year) was also not a career terrorist. There is a risk that some otherwise peaceful Moslem going to this Mosque loses it, and starts shooting tourists over at ground zero. Just like insurance companies study risk, there is a level of risk here that I think is higher with members of this religion. I think putting a Mosque that close is highly questionable in judgement. I think it'd be safer for everyone involved if they show some better judgement.

i disagree that either of these acts were committed by an "otherwise peaceful" muslim who lost it.

both were committed by individuals who sought out support from known terrorist organizations.

i argue that making the assumption "all muslims are potential terrorists" doesn't actually serve our security needs. it works against them. we need the majority of muslims that aren't terrorists on our side.

unless you're a republican running for office, this ridiculous mosque debate won't help.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i disagree that either of these acts were committed by an "otherwise peaceful" muslim who lost it.

both were committed by individuals who sought out support from known terrorist organizations.

Yea, but most of their lives were spent being as peaceful as the moslems who would attend this Mosque. They flipped out, and bad things tend to happen to non-Moslems when Moslems flip out.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yea, but most of their lives were spent being as peaceful as the moslems who would attend this Mosque. They flipped out, and bad things tend to happen to non-Moslems when Moslems flip out.

yeah, cause these terrorists only target non-muslims.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yea, but most of their lives were spent being as peaceful as the moslems who would attend this Mosque. They flipped out, and bad things tend to happen to non-Moslems when Moslems flip out.

i guarantee that any violence by muslim terrorists in a sufi mosque is more likely directed at sufi's than any non-muslim.

nine years in i doubt more than one in ten americans can actually tell you the difference between a sunni and a shiite, much less anything subtler. most would think hezbollah is interchangeable with hamas.

we keep trying to fight dumb with dumber.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i guarantee that any violence by muslim terrorists in a sufi mosque is more likely directed at sufi's than any non-muslim.

nine years in i doubt more than one in ten americans can actually tell you the difference between a sunni and a shiite, much less anything subtler. most would think hezbollah is interchangeable with hamas.

we keep trying to fight dumb with dumber.

oh me, me, me!! I can!! *raises hand*

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

oh me, me, me!! I can!! *raises hand*

Let me pull some statistics out of my as.s

9 out of 10 muslims think hi i'm god is an infidel.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Let me pull some statistics out of my as.s

9 out of 10 muslims think hi i'm god is an infidel.

he should become hi_i'm_mo and see how much the muslims like it.

Funny that us terrible Americans cant draw a picture of Mohammad without having our lives threatened.. but how dare us be sensitive towards a mosque right next to ground zero.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yea, but most of their lives were spent being as peaceful as the moslems who would attend this Mosque. They flipped out, and bad things tend to happen to non-Moslems when Moslems flip out.

Bad things tend to happen to non-murderers when murderers flip out. It's actually quite a bit more universal an adage than you may have first realized when typing that out.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Bad things tend to happen to non-murderers when murderers flip out. It's actually quite a bit more universal an adage than you may have first realized when typing that out.

They tend to have specific targets (based on not belonging to their group.) That comes from their prophet. This is something you apologists ignore routinely.