Obama's support for Ground Zero Mosque

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Honu

If they dont see the trouble and hurt that they are causing then how can they expect to have people on their side.

an incredibly insightful post. one of your best ever. now, just apply that to your point of view, try it on for size. it works both ways.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

an incredibly insightful post. one of your best ever. now, just apply that to your point of view, try it on for size. it works both ways.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

an incredibly insightful post. one of your best ever. now, just apply that to your point of view, try it on for size. it works both ways.

They're the ones that choose to participate in a "religion" that encourages killing members that want to leave. They're the ones that participate in a "religion" that calls for either killing non-muslims, or taxing them for not being Muslim. Stuff like this could be why Honu is upset about this, and not about Buddhists, and Hindus.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

They're the ones that choose to participate in a "religion" that encourages killing members that want to leave. They're the ones that participate in a "religion" that calls for either killing non-muslims, or taxing them for not being Muslim. Stuff like this could be why Honu is upset about this, and not about Buddhists, and Hindus.

you're wrong. not all muslims view everything in the same way. i suggest you also educate yourself more about this. go find the article i posted from the new york times, it might enlighten you. then again...no, it probably wouldn't. you believing the above doesn't make it true. hopefull there will always be more open- than closed-minded people in this country, otherwise we're all screwed.

and really, i agree with miraja and a few others who have said similar-we'd all be better off without any of these religions. most of the people who say they follow them don't anyway. take most christians, they no more follow the teachings of jesus than my cat does. look at the story the other day about the christian school that wouldn't let the girl be a student because she has two moms. yeah, that's exactly what jesus taught.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you're wrong. not all muslims view everything in the same way. i suggest you also educate yourself more about this. go find the article i posted from the new york times, it might enlighten you. then again...no, it probably wouldn't. you believing the above doesn't make it true. hopefull there will always be more open- than closed-minded people in this country, otherwise we're all screwed.

No, you are the closed minded one here. You continue to ignore the fact these people simply follow their prophet's teachings when they kill non-Moslems. They aren't rogue in the eyes of their prophet. When it comes to Islam, the facts are not on your side. You're holding the water for people who (if in the majority) would take away so many freedoms woman take for granted here.
This religion is serious business. They aren't playing, and you're dead wrong for believing people who follow a butcher. They've been given the right to lie to you(if it helps Islam.)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

No, you are the closed minded one here. You continue to ignore the fact these people simply follow their prophet's teachings when they kill non-Moslems. They aren't rogue in the eyes of their prophet. When it comes to Islam, the facts are not on your side. You're holding the water for people who (if in the majority) would take away so many freedoms woman take for granted here.
This religion is serious business. They aren't playing, and you're dead wrong for believing people who follow a butcher. They've been given the right to lie to you(if it helps Islam.)

lol


yeah, ok scuds. i didn't say i wanted to be a muslim, just like i no longer consider myself catholic. however, you're completely ignoring the fact that one, thankfully small, group of muslims is intent on killing anyone without their ultra-whacko view, including a sizable group of muslims who disagree with them. but all muslims are the same? if they're all the same exact bunch, why aren't they all running around killing everyone else? why are many of them a target by other muslims? why are some muslim countries far more 'westernized' than others?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lol


yeah, ok scuds. i didn't say i wanted to be a muslim, just like i no longer consider myself catholic. however, you're completely ignoring the fact that one, thankfully small, group of muslims is intent on killing anyone without their ultra-whacko view, including a sizable group of muslims who disagree with them. but all muslims are the same? if they're all the same exact bunch, why aren't they all running around killing everyone else? why are many of them a target by other muslims? why are some muslim countries far more 'westernized' than others?

Yea, they are not as bold when they're in the minority. You're naive to think they wouldn't cutback on women's rights in this country (as soon as they had the power to do so.) How much do you think they are costing England due to inbreeding? Ain't cheap taking care of their stubborn mistakes. We aren't gunna end up like England.When they come here, they better leave this shyt behind. We aren't gunna put up with the extreme Islam they brought into England. Democrats better not keep being apologists for crap like this inbreeding. Yea, they can legally come here, and build their mosques. The whole time, they are gunna know full well this isn't England, and they aren't welcome here. They are tolerated here. There is a difference, and they are gunna experience the difference. We will not be run over by this religion even 1 day more. They will get whatever basic rights they are due, and that's all. That's what this mosque thing is partially about. We want them to know that they better keep that extreme shyt tucked way tight inside themselves. Let there be no doubt about that. They are now informed. We don't have to like them. We have to tolerate them. Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism etc. embrace American Values. Islam never will. Cut the B.S. Threatening members with death (for leaving a religion) isn't an American value. If you really gave a damn about religious freedom, all of you apologists would care more about whether American Moslems are totally free to leave their religion. That's freedom of religion, too.

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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yea, they are not as bold when they're in the minority. You're naive to think they wouldn't cutback on women's rights in this country (as soon as they had the power to do so.) How much do you think they are costing England due to inbreeding? Ain't cheap taking care of their stubborn mistakes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...s-married.html

so, muslims are going to be able to circumvent the constitution when they grow large enough? that isn't going to happen. seems to me that many of the moderate muslims come here so they don't have to worry about dealing with their extremist brethren who throw acid in girls faces for daring go to school. they come here for freedom-seems like this would be the last place to come if they didn't want to be surrounded by a bunch of unclean infidels who believe in separation of church and state and have a secular government.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lol


yeah, ok scuds. i didn't say i wanted to be a muslim, just like i no longer consider myself catholic. however, you're completely ignoring the fact that one, thankfully small, group of muslims is intent on killing anyone without their ultra-whacko view, including a sizable group of muslims who disagree with them. but all muslims are the same? if they're all the same exact bunch, why aren't they all running around killing everyone else? why are many of them a target by other muslims? why are some muslim countries far more 'westernized' than others?

this is so wrong. if it was thankfully small, we wouldnt be bothered by it.

it is a thankfully small percentage, huge #'s. 10% of a billion is 100,000,000

That is the size of 1/3 of the USA population. Is it still thankfully small?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

this is so wrong. if it was thankfully small, we wouldnt be bothered by it.

it is a thankfully small percentage, huge #'s. 10% of a billion is 100,000,000

That is the size of 1/3 of the USA population. Is it still thankfully small?

it is small-the problem is that one dipshit willing to kill himself to take others with him can kill hundreds of people in one attack. when you think about the total amount of muslims in the world-well, if they all wanted to commit mass mayhem and murder, we'd all be done for.