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Old 08-11-2010, 11:17 PM
Rupert Pupkin Rupert Pupkin is offline
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I don't know why you're on such a crusade with this. So Dominguez winning at "only" a 20% clip means that Cohen is somehow a more potent combination with Pletcher? Come on, he's riding 2nd tier horses, that's not a mystery. His 8 winners with Pletcher since Aqueduct ended all happened during Triple Crown weekends, when JV was at Monmouth, or when JV had another mount in the same race.

They're 1-7 together at Saratoga with the 2YO firster being the only winner. Is Cohen a negative? Of course not but if you're using him as the rationale to play a firster bred to go long from the rail in a race that's going to have a sub even money favorite then you probably lose often.

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I'm not sure you understand my point. What started the conversation was that Simon Bray and FreddyMo both said that they would throw a Pletcher horse out if Cohen was on the horse and JV was on another horse. I'm saying that would be a mistake. That's all I'm saying.

I think it would be a mistake with any trainer to throw out a horse based on the jockey, if the jockey has a record with that trainer that is better than the trainer's average. When a jock rides a lot for a trainer and has done well for a trainer, that jock is obviously working plenty of horses for that trainer in the morning. If Cohen, for example, works a young horse for Pletcher and Cohen really likes the horse and wants to ride the horse, it would be quite possible that Pletcher may let him ride the horse, even though he is not Plethcer's #1 rider. I think it would be crazy to throw out a Pletcher horse with the rationale that "Pletcher must not like the horse or he wouldn't be riding Cohen."
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