Drug O'Neil keeps on a butchering

[Scav]

Originally Posted by freddymo

O Neil cant be defended on any level.. On the 8/9 Suffolk card there were 2 Zito Lapenta Mdn's dropping from 20 to 4 claimers both horses were 200 plus k and both were to slow to compete in NY. I also saw an Ex Phipps 4 year old that was out of Finders Fee racing as well.

The real question is does a horse's previous owner need to be responsible for the life of the animal that they purchased or bred and raced? Tough issue in the case of the two LaPenta Zito's yesterday ther were purchased in 08 for real money who knows how much was poored into the training feeding and vetting for these for the last 18 months. It isn't unresonable that each had 100k of added expense until they were claimed away.. Should Lapenta have to inspect or be involved with the horses future because he raised his paddle the highest in a auction in 08? Tough question

It isn't tough, why does a guy like LaPenta even have to run those horses for 4k, why not just retire them to an adaption facility, donate 6 months of care ($1500 roughly at an adaption facility) and clean the books.

These guys are sharp enough to understand that if their trainer is telling them they should run their 6 figure horses for 4k at Suffolk that they aren't very good horses.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Scav

It isn't tough, why does a guy like LaPenta even have to run those horses for 4k, why not just retire them to an adaption facility, donate 6 months of care ($1500 roughly at an adaption facility) and clean the books.

These guys are sharp enough to understand that if their trainer is telling them they should run their 6 figure horses for 4k at Suffolk that they aren't very good horses.

Its a charcter flaw, some call it business.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Its a charcter flaw, some call it business.

I don't know LaPenta at all, but it is hard for me to believe that he is in it for the 'business' side of it. It is structured as a business for obvious reasons.

Also, it is much easier to donate and be done with it because you have a specific end date, you don't have to worry about the horse getting claimed, hurt or anything else that can possibly go wrong.

This way you eliminate the day rate and everything that goes with it.

[Cannon Shell]

In the last 5 years O'Neil has had 23 appear to have broken down. He makes a lot of starts but that is a lot of dead horses. Dale Romans with a similar sized outfit during that same period had 5 break down.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

In the last 5 years O'Neil has had 23 appear to have broken down. He makes a lot of starts but that is a lot of dead horses. Dale Romans with a similar sized outfit during that same period had 5 break down.

Chuck, "It is easier on them." ---o'neill.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Chuck, "It is easier on them." ---o'neill.

Well to be fair he had I think 4 break down in stakes which in itself is quite remarkable

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Scav

It isn't tough, why does a guy like LaPenta even have to run those horses for 4k, why not just retire them to an adaption facility, donate 6 months of care ($1500 roughly at an adaption facility) and clean the books.

These guys are sharp enough to understand that if their trainer is telling them they should run their 6 figure horses for 4k at Suffolk that they aren't very good horses.

Scavs the horses might be ok and perhaps in the hands of a trainer that can focus on them a bit more that might become useful claimers? You have to believe that Zito gave it his best shot but once it became evident that the stock would not be the type that Lapenta cares to campaign perhaps the barn stopped giving their all to get them as perfect as possible.. Not suggesting claiming from Zito is all that bright just that you shouldn't HAVE too retire a 250k 3 year old because one trainer and owner have bigger fish to fry.