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Old 07-30-2010, 03:08 PM
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Shirreffs told Tim Wilkin of the Albany Times Union today that the Saratoga is NOT on Zenyatta's dance card. Jackson immediately responded by announcing the RA will contest the G1 Personal Ensign.
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:11 PM
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Shirreffs told Tim Wilkin of the Albany Times Union today that the Saratoga is NOT on Zenyatta's dance card. Jackson immediately responded by announcing the RA will contest the G1 Personal Ensign.
lol.. It that true?
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:25 PM
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Shirreffs told Tim Wilkin of the Albany Times Union today that the Saratoga is NOT on Zenyatta's dance card. Jackson immediately responded by announcing the RA will contest the G1 Personal Ensign.
Yeah, that's the way it happened. RA's camp didn't narrow her next start down to the Personal Ensign or the Personal Ensign the day after the Lady's Secret. They were waiting for the stunning decision by Shirreffs not to ship Zenyatta.
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:58 PM
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In other news today, it's been confirmed that Zenyattards are still pretty freakin lame.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:17 PM
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How soon until Moss announces that zenyatta is shipping to Saratoga for the Personal Ensign? It might be z's only shot against Rachel at z's preferred distance of 10 furlongs. What is stopping him?
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:49 PM
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How soon until Moss announces that zenyatta is shipping to Saratoga for the Personal Ensign? It might be z's only shot against Rachel at z's preferred distance of 10 furlongs. What is stopping him?
This question is perfectly logical, but it is almost ridiculous to ask at this point.
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Old 07-31-2010, 05:08 PM
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This question is perfectly logical, but it is almost ridiculous to ask at this point.
I will never understand how having no balls can affect one's thinking,,,,,Balls/Brains they are located in two differant spots, yet having no balls will prevent Zenyatta from her biggest race and a chance of real racing history.

I understand that the detention barn has been done away with and Zenyatta has had plenty of time between races and her best race would be at 1 1/4 miles. Clearly Moss is not thinking with his BRAIN, Good God Man go for the GLORY. NO GUTS NO GLORY.
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This question is perfectly logical, but it is almost ridiculous to ask at this point.
The only thing more ridiculous is the litany of reasons given by the Z camp to avoid any and all real competition.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:52 PM
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What is stopping him?
Nightmares of Manisitque?

The realization that Zenyatta will only be 99.27% ready if she were to ship that far instead of 100.00% ready?
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:00 PM
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Yeah, that's the way it happened. RA's camp didn't narrow her next start down to the Personal Ensign or the Personal Ensign the day after the Lady's Secret. They were waiting for the stunning decision by Shirreffs not to ship Zenyatta.
Had Zenyatta come - RA's camp would have tried to hold out and push for a much larger purse, a distance change to 9.5 furlongs, and a Jess Jackson bobble head doll giveaway promotion the day of the race.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:06 PM
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RA had HER chance to show up, at OP. She didn't. Her connections had committed to it. They reneged. Z's connections haven't committed to anything at SAR. The RA crew can spin it any way they want but why should she get a 2nd chance? Especially when giving her ANOTHER opportunity would require shipping your horse cross country. The RA crew can whine all they want; that's about all that having your horse NOT SHOW UP gets you.

Funny how the **** gets spun around here.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:46 PM
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I don't think anybody's spinning anything. The horse is pointing for a race that's four weeks away. Anybody else who wants to show up - flying further east than the Ohio River or not - is welcome to do so.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:12 PM
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RA had HER chance to show up, at OP. She didn't. Her connections had committed to it. They reneged. Z's connections haven't committed to anything at SAR. The RA crew can spin it any way they want but why should she get a 2nd chance? Especially when giving her ANOTHER opportunity would require shipping your horse cross country. The RA crew can whine all they want; that's about all that having your horse NOT SHOW UP gets you.

Funny how the **** gets spun around here.
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i didn't know that cali horses could only ship as far as oaklawn. i did NOT know that. amazing. i didn't know that zenyatta was only good enough to face rachel off a layoff. who knew? what happened to all that talk at the beginning of the year from zenyattas crew? you know, travel, let fans see her, blah blah.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:20 PM
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i didn't know that cali horses could only ship as far as oaklawn. i did NOT know that. amazing. i didn't know that zenyatta was only good enough to face rachel off a layoff. who knew? what happened to all that talk at the beginning of the year from zenyattas crew? you know, travel, let fans see her, blah blah.
Clearly, people like TFF bought into what was obviously loads of BS.
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Old 07-31-2010, 01:10 AM
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Rachel is running in another grade 1? Already? Why doesn't she wait a week and make it a full year between grade 1's?
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Old 07-31-2010, 08:25 AM
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RA had HER chance to show up, at OP. She didn't. Her connections had committed to it. They reneged. Z's connections haven't committed to anything at SAR. The RA crew can spin it any way they want but why should she get a 2nd chance? Especially when giving her ANOTHER opportunity would require shipping your horse cross country. The RA crew can whine all they want; that's about all that having your horse NOT SHOW UP gets you.

Funny how the **** gets spun around here.
wait until the evening of the 29th...after she loses...the crying towels will be out.....lol.
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Old 07-31-2010, 09:23 AM
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I doubt it. It's not like she's never lost before. Besides, she already has something Zenyatta never will attain: an Eclipse award for Horse of the Year.
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Old 07-31-2010, 11:47 AM
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I doubt it. It's not like she's never lost before. Besides, she already has something Zenyatta never will attain: an Eclipse award for Horse of the Year.
Many of them already think that Zenyawner is the one of the greatest horses ever, so I doubt facts will get in the way of their "reality."
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Old 07-31-2010, 12:53 PM
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I doubt it. It's not like she's never lost before. Besides, she already has something Zenyatta never will attain: an Eclipse award for Horse of the Year.
Isn't having your own theme song more impressive?
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Old 07-31-2010, 10:28 PM
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RA had HER chance to show up, at OP. She didn't. Her connections had committed to it. They reneged. Z's connections haven't committed to anything at SAR. The RA crew can spin it any way they want but why should she get a 2nd chance? Especially when giving her ANOTHER opportunity would require shipping your horse cross country. The RA crew can whine all they want; that's about all that having your horse NOT SHOW UP gets you.

Funny how the **** gets spun around here.
I don't care what anybody says. It's pretty darn impressive when someone learns to type while wearing a straight jacket.

RA spent 5 months as a barn potato, and Jackson let $5 mil lure him into doing something stupid. There's no point in marching your horse toward a major confrontation they're not fit for just because the mob in the colliseum wants to turn their thumbs up or down.
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