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Old 07-29-2010, 10:26 PM
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Bullpucky!!!! He was hand fed and gifted all the paths to higher education and a job in politics if he wasnt then you tell me how the poor little guy from Hawaii with no Daddy has gotten where he has. He is a made man just like others before him its just that he wasnt made by family money he was made by wealthy benafactors who have seasoned him to fullfill their agenda.
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:38 PM
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Bullpucky!!!! He was hand fed and gifted all the paths to higher education and a job in politics if he wasnt then you tell me how the poor little guy from Hawaii with no Daddy has gotten where he has. He is a made man just like others before him its just that he wasnt made by family money he was made by wealthy benafactors who have seasoned him to fullfill their agenda.
That is laughable.

He lived in Indonesia for 4 years and moved back to Hawaii with his grandparents and attended a private school on scholarship.

Not exactly living like a Kennedy.
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:39 PM
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Bullpucky!!!! He was hand fed and gifted all the paths to higher education and a job in politics if he wasnt then you tell me how the poor little guy from Hawaii with no Daddy has gotten where he has. He is a made man just like others before him its just that he wasnt made by family money he was made by wealthy benafactors who have seasoned him to fullfill their agenda.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:44 PM
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Coach is owning this thread, and that's pretty impressive considering he bashes Obama on a regular basis. I'd give him 10 pies.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:18 PM
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Coach is owning this thread, and that's pretty impressive considering he bashes Obama on a regular basis. I'd give him 10 pies.
And it's ridiculous that I have to defend him against Bush but quite frankly I'm sick of the comparisons.

It's like this..

"Yo dawg, take this turd and Kiwi polish and see if you can make it sparkle in 18 months...if not, you're horrible and dumber than Bush."

No, just no.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:22 PM
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it's like choosing between turd sandwich and douche bag. obama no doubt is smarter.
neither one has managed to do much of anything good for the country, so what does it matter anyway?
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:28 PM
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it's like choosing between turd sandwich and douche bag. obama no doubt is smarter.
neither one has managed to do much of anything good for the country, so what does it matter anyway?
He still has time to make things better.

There aren't many scenarios where I see him making a bigger mistake than Iraq. Only a daddy's boy like Bush would f.uck up that bad.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:39 AM
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He still has time to make things better.

There aren't many scenarios where I see him making a bigger mistake than Iraq. Only a daddy's boy like Bush would f.uck up that bad.
Blame Bush for Iraq all you want , he never would have gone if the US Senate did not give him a overwhelming majority vote

The current Vice President and Secretary of State both agreed with Dubya and the current in fact in her speech said it was the right thing to do for the commander in chief and that she knew what Bush was going through becuase she hap spent 8 yrs on the other side of Penn ave and sometimes you have to make decisions without all of the facts and information available.

I wonder how many of you would have voted agaisnt the 1st gulf war back Bush Sr 's term...........well i know one senator who did ...........it's the current VP

You can't have it both ways , Joe Biden blew the 2 biggest votes in his senate history , yet Obama is smart for picking Uncle Joe as VP with his stellar record

Picking Biden who is a supposed expert and got both Iraq WAR votes wrong , makes Obama pretty smart hey?
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:28 PM
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it's like choosing between turd sandwich and douche bag. obama no doubt is smarter.
neither one has managed to do much of anything good for the country, so what does it matter anyway?
Well that's a different conversation. People are trying to conflate what they think about his policies and leadership with how smart he is, which is why every time someone in here earlier said "well, I'm not so sure he's smarter," they would back it up with "well, I'm not better off than I was 19 months ago" and "OIL SPILL!"

Neither of which have anything whatsoever to do with whether he's smart of not, which is completely why Coach is owning this thread, because he's apparently the only one who can keep the conversation straight.

Really though, if there's a soul out there who legitimately thinks that there is even the slightest chance that Dubya is smarter/more intelligent than Obama, they should get their head checked. Policies are one thing to disagree with, but the actual intelligence conversation should be pretty one and done.

And his leadership has been pisspoor since about 3 weeks into office, so I'm essentially sick of him too at this point.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:43 PM
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I am extremely disappointed with his foreign policy. I was naively hoping he would bring our troops home and let Iraq and Afghanistan eat cake.

Americans can be conditioned to embrace peace. Shocking, I know.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:24 AM
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Well that's a different conversation. People are trying to conflate what they think about his policies and leadership with how smart he is, which is why every time someone in here earlier said "well, I'm not so sure he's smarter," they would back it up with "well, I'm not better off than I was 19 months ago" and "OIL SPILL!"

Neither of which have anything whatsoever to do with whether he's smart of not, which is completely why Coach is owning this thread, because he's apparently the only one who can keep the conversation straight.

Really though, if there's a soul out there who legitimately thinks that there is even the slightest chance that Dubya is smarter/more intelligent than Obama, they should get their head checked. Policies are one thing to disagree with, but the actual intelligence conversation should be pretty one and done.

And his leadership has been pisspoor since about 3 weeks into office, so I'm essentially sick of him too at this point.

If I'm making a bet on who has a higher IQ, I'll take Obama no doubt.

They still both suck as presidents, Obama to me is like G.W. Bush II, still as much in love with spending as the last guy, and both have no clue about what the fucl< they are doing.
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Old 07-29-2010, 10:48 PM
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
Oh I dont, well go see what kind of 411 you get on his records from Columbia he was a B plus student. Beleive me I do tend to research things a little bit before I post here esp about the POTUS.
A private school in Hawaii is like going to a good school in Iowa, they arent exactly known for their quality of education publicly or privately. He may have not lived like a Kennedy but he was molded like one later in life. So you tell me how a kid with no Daddy and no money and no real connections gets as far as he has. He was in school and then he was in politics and you dont think anyone helped him along the way? Can I get a hiit of some of your cush?
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:03 AM
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Oh I dont, well go see what kind of 411 you get on his records from Columbia he was a B plus student. Beleive me I do tend to research things a little bit before I post here esp about the POTUS.
A private school in Hawaii is like going to a good school in Iowa, they arent exactly known for their quality of education publicly or privately. He may have not lived like a Kennedy but he was molded like one later in life. So you tell me how a kid with no Daddy and no money and no real connections gets as far as he has. He was in school and then he was in politics and you dont think anyone helped him along the way? Can I get a hiit of some of your cush?
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Old 07-30-2010, 06:16 AM
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could you folks with all your making sense, having your facts straight, using complete sentences with all the words included and being semi-respectful to each other please let nascar back in here for those of us that are waiting to hear what he has to say. I just pray he doesn't have me on his "ignore" list so he can see that I, at least, like reading his comments. As long as he's around, I won't be the stupiderest one in the room.
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Old 07-30-2010, 07:14 AM
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could you folks with all your making sense, having your facts straight, using complete sentences with all the words included and being semi-respectful to each other please let nascar back in here for those of us that are waiting to hear what he has to say. I just pray he doesn't have me on his "ignore" list so he can see that I, at least, like reading his comments. As long as he's around, I won't be the stupiderest one in the room.

I would never put you on the ignore list.
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