Meanest Trainer Ever?

doll0608 · #1 07-29-2010, 02:50 PM

I have known David Carroll for a very long time. He is not someone that would just hall off and hit a horse for no reason. He is an excellent horseman and a great person. If you have never put yourself in a situation that dangerous you have no idea of the danger he was in. I am sure he just didn't find it amusing to have to do what he did.

Patrick333 · #2 07-29-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by doll0608

I have known David Carroll for a very long time. He is not someone that would just hall off and hit a horse for no reason. He is an excellent horseman and a great person. If you have never put yourself in a situation that dangerous you have no idea of the danger he was in. I am sure he just didn't find it amusing to have to do what he did.

Steve spoke very highly of him ATR his morning.

#3 07-29-2010, 03:38 PM

Yeah I knew the nice defense would come along. Like it should make any difference if someone is nice or a total a-hole when they're caught on video doing something wrong.

Sure he rode Easy Goer in the morning but that was a long time ago. Time diminishes skill sets... especially when it involves physicality.

He should know better. Apologize, take the punishment and move on.

randallscott35 · #4 07-29-2010, 03:46 PM

Inexcusable.

#5 07-29-2010, 03:48 PM

I would like to see someone defend this quote...

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"It's like taking your son or daughter away and spending the whole day with them at Holiday World. Whole day, buy them candy, then come home and time to do homework and they say no. Spent the whole day with you. 'No, I'm not doing it,' for no real reason," Carroll said. "You get upset, don't you?"

http://www.wlky.com/news/24426672/detail.html

The Indomitable DrugS · #6 07-29-2010, 03:55 PM

Wow. He might have actually been better served if he went with the 'you take your ho out and spend time with her - and when you want her to turn a trick she says no' angle than the whole I treat them like my kids angle.

Danzig · #7 07-29-2010, 04:02 PM

no doubt the horse was out of control. but eventually it seems, so was the trainer. a shame all the way around. too bad for the horse, too bad for a trainer who probably got lost in the moment.

Antitrust32 · #8 07-29-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

no doubt the horse was out of control. but eventually it seems, so was the trainer. a shame all the way around. too bad for the horse, too bad for a trainer who probably got lost in the moment.

I bet the horse barely felt it. I'm not saying its the right way to go about it, but after watching the video I dont think its nearly as big of deal as some of the posts made it out to be.

horses are huge animals that can kill a person fairly easily. sometimes you have to be tough with them.

shoot i felt bad at school when getting the yearlings ready for the sale, if one of the colts got a erection we were supposed to smack it with a crop to make it go away.. that probably bothers them more than that punch did.

randallscott35 · #9 07-29-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I would like to see someone defend this quote...

http://www.wlky.com/news/24426672/detail.html

Thanks for that link. Makes clear Carroll is an *******. I don't need the, I was having a bad day nonsense. This is physical abuse.

#10 07-29-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Thanks for that link. Makes clear Carroll is an *******. I don't need the, I was having a bad day nonsense. This is physical abuse.

Look he's human but should know that this sport is under the microscope and talking to the reporter after the fact was career suicide.

If this doesn't make national headlines then he's the luckiest bastard on the face of the earth. The horse-kids comparison is media gold.

randallscott35 · #11 07-29-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Look he's human but should know that this sport is under the microscope and talking to the reporter after the fact was career suicide.

If this doesn't make national headlines then he's the luckiest bastard on the face of the earth. The horse-kids comparison is media gold.

I was less than impressed with Asher's response as well.

Antitrust32 · #12 07-29-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Look he's human but should know that this sport is under the microscope and talking to the reporter after the fact was career suicide.

If this doesn't make national headlines then he's the luckiest bastard on the face of the earth. The horse-kids comparison is media gold.

yeah the quotes were not very well thought out.

randall, have you ever worked hands on with a race horse?

DaTruth · #13 07-30-2010, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Look he's human but should know that this sport is under the microscope and talking to the reporter after the fact was career suicide.

If this doesn't make national headlines then he's the luckiest bastard on the face of the earth. The horse-kids comparison is media gold.

He is fortunate that he made that statement at the end of the week when reporters are otherwise preoccupied with Charlie Rangel, Mel Gibson, Lindsey Lohan, BP, Kagan, and NFL training camps. If he had said that crap during Derby week, he would have become the poster boy for animal abuse in the public eye. He needs to shut his mouth and lay low until this episode blows over, and hope his owners understand.

pba1817 · #14 07-30-2010, 12:53 AM

Horse deserved it

The Devil · #15 07-29-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I would like to see someone defend this quote...

http://www.wlky.com/news/24426672/detail.html

Chicken man, you have no ideal what it is like to be around a race horse.

randallscott35 · #16 07-29-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Devil

Chicken man, you have no ideal what it is like to be around a race horse.

Wait so b/c they are a big animal we should have an anything goes attitude towards face whipping? I don't see Circus trainers hit Tigers in the face. The people defending this are basically saying this "was the only way." The fact is he knew he did something wrong. If it was the correct way to do things, why would he admit that.

Antitrust32 · #17 07-30-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Wait so b/c they are a big animal we should have an anything goes attitude towards face whipping? I don't see Circus trainers hit Tigers in the face. The people defending this are basically saying this "was the only way." The fact is he knew he did something wrong. If it was the correct way to do things, why would he admit that.

I didnt see this horse get whipped in the face. I see the horse getting whipped in the side & then hit in the face once with Carrols hand. If he had been out there just whipping the horse in the face over and over, then that would be a different story.. but you can see the whip hitting the horse in the side, not the face.

#18 07-29-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Devil

Chicken man, you have no ideal what it is like to be around a race horse.

I've spent plenty of time around race horses and I've ridden them as well but that has absolutely nothing to do with what Carroll did nor does it justify it. Only a stall-mucking, mouth-breathing rube such as yourself would think otherwise.

Now go crawl back in your lurker troll hole before you get completely obliterated.

trackrat59 · #19 07-29-2010, 06:40 PM

I have a question. Let me know if I'm off on what I'm seeing.

I watched the video several times. Yes, the horse was out of control and D.C. was trying to gain control, get the horse to run straight, and move over to the rail. From what I saw in the video it appears the horse finally starts moving toward the rail as he goes into the turn and appears to be less rank at that point. This is when the horse gets smacked in the face. Did I see that correctly? If so it was unfair to slap the horse in the face at that point. If it was done as an attempt to gain control in a dangerous situation so be it.