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Old 07-05-2010, 06:44 PM
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There are a few super-horses I feel should have won the triple crown that didn't.

I think the top three horses who didn't win the triple crown that deserved to are: Alydar, Native Dancer and Spectacular Bid.

Other horses who I feel were triple crown worthy: Sunday Silence, and though I don't know much about him Afleet Alex. Afleet Alex seemed like a true superhorse from the small ammount I've seen him do.

Man O' War would have won the triple crown in my estimate had he run in all three triple crown races.
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Old 07-05-2010, 06:49 PM
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Old 07-05-2010, 07:29 PM
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This is kind of silly... How can a horse who did not even run in all 3 races be on this list? If thats the case, then why not Bernardini? His Preakness was huge, and Im positive he was more talented then Barbaro....
I do agree with Point Given though.
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Old 07-05-2010, 08:53 PM
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This is kind of silly... How can a horse who did not even run in all 3 races be on this list? If thats the case, then why not Bernardini? His Preakness was huge, and Im positive he was more talented then Barbaro....
I do agree with Point Given though.
See Doug, I told you Barbaro was a better horse than Bernardini.
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:12 PM
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In retrospect, Man O War and Native Dancer and Bid probably proved most worthy. MOW was never able to try and ND was nosed in the Derby after a bad trip and while I love him Bid was probably not at his best beyond 10f.
Beyond that I'd give honorable mention to Damascus and even Tim Tam who was second in the Belmont on a busted leg, as well as Sunday Silence. (Easy Goer's ankles were not as troubled by the wide turns at Belmont.)
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:32 PM
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See Doug, I told you Barbaro was a better horse than Bernardini.
I would like for some of the other Dt members to voice there opinion on this...
I think the world of Barbaro, I loved him... I think Bernardini would have won the Preakness had Barbaro not gone down.
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:39 PM
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I would like for some of the other Dt members to voice there opinion on this...
I think the world of Barbaro, I loved him... I think Bernardini would have won the Preakness had Barbaro not gone down.
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Old 07-05-2010, 07:18 PM
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There are a few super-horses I feel should have won the triple crown that didn't.

I think the top four horses who didn't win the triple crown that deserved to are: Alydar, Native Dancer and Spectacular Bid.

Other horses who I feel were triple crown worthy: Sunday Silence, and though I don't know much about him Afleet Alex. Afleet Alex seemed like a true superhorse from the small ammount I've seen him do.

Man O' War would have won the triple crown in my estimate had he run in all three triple crown races.
who's #4?

can't argue with the three listed, that's for sure.

i'd add northern dancer and riva ridge.
absolutely agree that man o'war most likely was a winner had he run in the derby.


as for afleet alex, he was no superhorse.
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who's #4?

can't argue with the three listed, that's for sure.

i'd add northern dancer and riva ridge.
absolutely agree that man o'war most likely was a winner had he run in the derby.


as for afleet alex, he was no superhorse.
hahaha about the top four meant top 3! I'm fixing that
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Charismatic. I honestly believe he wins if he doesn't get hurt. It's odd that his name doesn't come up that often when talking TC near misses, he had a legit excuse.
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Old 07-06-2010, 10:21 AM
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Charismatic. I honestly believe he wins if he doesn't get hurt. It's odd that his name doesn't come up that often when talking TC near misses, he had a legit excuse.
He was a beautiful horse, but man, that crop sucked. He really wasn't that great a runner.
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Old 07-06-2010, 10:33 AM
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He was a beautiful horse, but man, that crop sucked. He really wasn't that great a runner.
I agree with your statement wholeheartedly. I don't believe comparatively he may stack up talent wise to most of the other near missers, but I think he should have won the TC.
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Charismatic. I honestly believe he wins if he doesn't get hurt. It's odd that his name doesn't come up that often when talking TC near misses, he had a legit excuse.
Agreed, and I'm glad you brought him up.

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He was a beautiful horse . . .
Still is, standing stud in Aomori, Japan.

ESPN is supposed to feature Charismatic, and by extension I'm sure -- Chris Antley -- on one of their "30 for 30" shows this year, but they haven't yet set a date for it.
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as for afleet alex, he was no superhorse.
i disagree, his win in the preakness was remarkable. his belmont was a jog and the hopeful was one of the best 2 year old races you will ever see. he was tons better than that years crop.
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:51 PM
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i disagree, his win in the preakness was remarkable. his belmont was a jog and the hopeful was one of the best 2 year old races you will ever see. he was tons better than that years crop.
Afleet Alex was the Big Brown of his crop.

Really good horse with a truly awful supporting cast.
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Old 07-07-2010, 06:51 AM
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Afleet Alex was the Big Brown of his crop.

Really good horse with a truly awful supporting cast.
i disagree with that too.....alex was twice the horse big brown was. he won grade 1's at 2 and 3....big brown was a 3 race wonder.
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Old 07-07-2010, 12:14 PM
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Swaps or Nassua perhaps deserved to win the triple crown. Swaps didn't run in all 3 races and Nassua would have won the triple crown if not for Swaps win in the Derby.
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i disagree with that too.....alex was twice the horse big brown was. he won grade 1's at 2 and 3....big brown was a 3 race wonder.
Agreed. Don't forget that Rose probably cost him the BC Juvenile as well.

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