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Old 06-23-2010, 10:25 PM
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Obama's approval numbers are low now, yes. But look at the Dem vs GOP numbers - the GOP is still at the bottom. The views on the GOP positive for dealing with issues is still lower than the Dems, very low.

For a GOP vs Dem congress this fall, right now the GOP only barely wins by 2% points.

So people are unhappy with the Dems, but the GOP isn't winning any new friends and isn't above them, they are below them. Remember alot of people unhappy with the Dems are progressives that feel this administration is too conservative (healthcare was 'way too conservative for many on the left)

And still the public says that Obama inherited the mess 40% versus "it's his" 27%

So I don't see where "any" GOP candidate could beat Obama at all, right now, today. Too much baggage, too far to the right to appeal to any center, which decides the election. Reagan won on the center, not the base. The people who are voting GOP say they do so "primarily to cut government spending" - yet Bush took us from surplus to massive deficit, started two wars, etc. People know that.

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?
Clinton "cooked the books"! If you don't know THAT, further comments are unecessary!
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Old 06-23-2010, 10:32 PM
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Clinton "cooked the books"! If you don't know THAT, further comments are unecessary!
The books can be cooked to all the extent your imaginograph wants them to be, yet Bush still added trillions to that. Cold fact, can't change it.
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Old 06-23-2010, 10:32 PM
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Clinton "cooked the books"! If you don't know THAT, further comments are unecessary!
For all the crap he gets, much deserved, Clinton was an excellent President, bad husband and brilliant Statesman.
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Old 06-23-2010, 10:36 PM
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For all the crap he gets, much deserved, Clinton was an excellent President, bad husband and brilliant Statesman.
er blackhawk down ..could have taken out bin laden ..emm
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Old 06-23-2010, 10:41 PM
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er blackhawk down ..could have taken out bin laden ..emm
You can second guess a lot of things on both sides..that's easy
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Old 06-23-2010, 10:44 PM
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er blackhawk down ..could have taken out bin laden ..emm
He had a great smile and he sure made people feel at home.
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Old 06-23-2010, 11:05 PM
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He had a great smile and he sure made people feel at home.
cant argue that..
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:50 AM
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For all the crap he gets, much deserved, Clinton was an excellent President, bad husband and brilliant Statesman.
I know you guys will hate me for saying this, but Newt and the GOP congress made Clinton's presidency. He was heading down the wrong path (like Obama) until the Midterm elections and the GOP took congress.. Clinton went along with their idea's like they were his own. He figured out the best way to govern was from the center.

Clinton did a good job fiscally.. and he got to ride the .com wave.. but he completely screwed us by doing absolutely nothing about bin Laden, eventhough bin Laden carried out many attacks on the US (not really on our soil - but USS Cole and Kenya Embassy bombing, and many others).

If Clinton hadnt been such a freeking pu$$y, he could have created much disruption for bin Laden and his gang before 9/11 to happen.

The only time he did anything about it is when his impeachment hearing was going, and most believed he did some bombing just to take attention off that.

Its still a sad thing when Clinton was the best Pres of the past 20 years. (Ronnie blew him outta the water as far as Presidents go, though)
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Its still a sad thing when Clinton was the best Pres of the past 20 years. (Ronnie blew him outta the water as far as Presidents go, though)
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Ah ... thanks ... REALLY needed a good belly laugh this morning.
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Old 06-24-2010, 10:50 AM
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Ah ... thanks ... REALLY needed a good belly laugh this morning.
considering it was you that replied.. it makes me feel much more confident in my opinion, Mr. "Goldielocks didnt want to try the beasts in the BCC"
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:40 PM
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Ah ... thanks ... REALLY needed a good belly laugh this morning.
You think Clinton will go down in history as a better President than Reagan? Have you been drinking today?
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