Michelle Calls Barack a "Kenyan"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

LOL...oh man, that was funny! Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh this morning.

Who do you think can beat him?

I think "landslide" will be appropriate by the time 2012 comes around, unless the GOP can make a case for itself as something more than the party of Glenn & Rush & Michelle Bachmann & Palin, etc

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Who do you think can beat him?

I think "landslide" will be appropriate by the time 2012 comes around, unless the GOP can make a case for itself as something more than the party of Glenn & Rush & Michelle Bachmann & Palin, etc

You do realize he ran on a platform that our troops in Afghanistan and Irag should return home, Gitmo should be closed, and gays should have equal rights at least in the military. None of that happened.

Instead he passed a healthcare bill we ALL will pay into for 4 years before any benefits are recieved, that 60% of Americans didn't want. He has gone on a spending spree like a 13 yr old finding his college money under the guise we need to spend to prevent going bankrupt. He has turned his back on Israel. He wants the borders to stay open yet says we're secure. He released many of the suspected terrorist from Government surveillance and no fly lists, demonstrated recently with the Times Square Bomber. He doesn't believe in State's rights over the Fed.

So unless illegals and enemy countries are allowed to vote I don't think there are enough people like you that will vote for this joke come 2 yrs. Government jobs are about as productive as watering your lawn, and catching the runoff to be used as drinking water and this fool and staff can't realize that.

BTW I remember when he first came to DC he was going to find a new church having realized the minister who married him and baptized all of his children was a racist. You know everything Obama Riot, any word on his choice or was that more of the same B.S. in the name of God?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You do realize he ran on a platform that our troops in Afghanistan and Irag should return home, Gitmo should be closed, and gays should have equal rights at least in the military. None of that happened.

Instead he passed a healthcare bill we ALL will pay into for 4 years before any benefits are recieved, that 60% of Americans didn't want. He has gone on a spending spree like a 13 yr old finding his college money under the guise we need to spend to prevent going bankrupt. He has turned his back on Israel. He wants the borders to stay open yet says we're secure. He released many of the suspected terrorist from Government surveillance and no fly lists, demonstrated recently with the Times Square Bomber. He doesn't believe in State's rights over the Fed.

So unless illegals and enemy countries are allowed to vote I don't think there are enough people like you that will vote for this joke come 2 yrs. Government jobs are about as productive as watering your lawn, and catching the runoff to be used as drinking water and this fool and staff can't realize that.

BTW I remember when he first came to DC he was going to find a new church having realized the minister who married him and baptized all of his children was a racist. You know everything Obama Riot, any word on his choice or was that more of the same B.S. in the name of God?

You are slipping too

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You do realize he ran on a platform that our troops in Afghanistan and Irag should return home, Gitmo should be closed, and gays should have equal rights at least in the military. None of that happened.

Instead he passed a healthcare bill we ALL will pay into for 4 years before any benefits are recieved, that 60% of Americans didn't want. He has gone on a spending spree like a 13 yr old finding his college money under the guise we need to spend to prevent going bankrupt. He has turned his back on Israel. He wants the borders to stay open yet says we're secure. He released many of the suspected terrorist from Government surveillance and no fly lists, demonstrated recently with the Times Square Bomber. He doesn't believe in State's rights over the Fed.

So unless illegals and enemy countries are allowed to vote I don't think there are enough people like you that will vote for this joke come 2 yrs. Government jobs are about as productive as watering your lawn, and catching the runoff to be used as drinking water and this fool and staff can't realize that.

BTW I remember when he first came to DC he was going to find a new church having realized the minister who married him and baptized all of his children was a racist. You know everything Obama Riot, any word on his choice or was that more of the same B.S. in the name of God?

For those with Obama Derangement Syndrome it will obviously be an easy vote for "anyone but".

That's not the majority of the US. It's a most obvious minority. And a statistical minority (southern, white, ultra conservative, rural etc) that is literally getting less numerous as the years go by. The election, as always, will be decided by those in the middle.

Again: who can beat him? It's mid-2010, where are the candidates? Name one remotely viable GOP candidate - especially since the 2012 GOP Convention will be in Tampa.

BTW, this week several GOP congressional candidates for this fall are having BP-sponsored fundraisers. Nothing like advertising you are sucking down BP oil money, in the midst of the greatest environmental disaster ever.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

statistical minority (southern, white, ultra conservative, rural etc

so what are you trying to say here..southern blacks love him..wrong..

you can add about 100,000 cajun oil workers[ deep well] and the ships that supply them and the truckers that bring the supplys and the mechanic that works on the trucks ect ect ect.. that hes trying to phuck over.

[Riot]

[quote]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

statistical minority (southern, white, ultra conservative, rural etc

so what are you trying to say here..southern blacks love him..wrong..

Uh ... no. That's opposite to what I wrote.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

For those with Obama Derangement Syndrome it will obviously be an easy vote for "anyone but".

That's not the majority of the US. It's a most obvious minority. And a statistical minority (southern, white, ultra conservative, rural etc) that is literally getting less numerous as the years go by. The election, as always, will be decided by those in the middle.

Again: who can beat him? It's mid-2010, where are the candidates? Name one remotely viable GOP candidate - especially since the 2012 GOP Convention will be in Tampa.

BTW, this week several GOP congressional candidates for this fall are having BP-sponsored fundraisers. Nothing like advertising you are sucking down BP oil money, in the midst of the greatest environmental disaster ever.

Obama didn't even beat McCain that easily. I think he beat him by about 6 percentage points. And that was when Obama was popular.

Obama's numbers are in the toilet right now. His approval rating is around 43%. If the election were tomorrow, Obama would have practically no chance of winning. His only chance would be if there was a 3rd party candidate that took votes away from the Republican candidate. Other than that, Obama would have practically no chance right now.

I would be saying the same thing right now, no matter who the President was and no matter what party they were in. A President with a 43% approval rating cannot win an election. It's basically impossible. That doesn't mean Obama can't win in 2 1/2 years from now. A lot can change in 2 1/2 years. Maybe his numbers will go up. But if the election were tomorrow, he would have no chance. Anybody could beat him right now.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Obama didn't even beat McCain that easily. I think he beat him by about 6 percentage points. And that was when Obama was popular.

Obama's numbers are in the toilet right now. His approval rating is around 43%. If the election were tomorrow, Obama would have practically no chance of winning. His only chance would be if there was a 3rd party candidate that took votes away from the Republican candidate. Other than that, Obama would have practically no chance right now.

I would be saying the same thing right now, no matter who the President was and no matter what party they were in. A President with a 43% approval rating cannot win an election. It's basically impossible. That doesn't mean Obama can't win in 2 1/2 years from now. A lot can change in 2 1/2 years. Maybe his numbers will go up. But if the election were tomorrow, he would have no chance. Anybody could beat him right now.

Obama's approval numbers are low now, yes. But look at the Dem vs GOP numbers - the GOP is still at the bottom. The views on the GOP positive for dealing with issues is still lower than the Dems, very low.

For a GOP vs Dem congress this fall, right now the GOP only barely wins by 2% points.

So people are unhappy with the Dems, but the GOP isn't winning any new friends and isn't above them, they are below them. Remember alot of people unhappy with the Dems are progressives that feel this administration is too conservative (healthcare was 'way too conservative for many on the left)

And still the public says that Obama inherited the mess 40% versus "it's his" 27%

So I don't see where "any" GOP candidate could beat Obama at all, right now, today. Too much baggage, too far to the right to appeal to any center, which decides the election. Reagan won on the center, not the base. The people who are voting GOP say they do so "primarily to cut government spending" - yet Bush took us from surplus to massive deficit, started two wars, etc. People know that.

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Obama's approval numbers are low now, yes. But look at the Dem vs GOP numbers - the GOP is still at the bottom. The views on the GOP positive for dealing with issues is still lower than the Dems, very low.

For a GOP vs Dem congress this fall, right now the GOP only barely wins by 2% points.

So people are unhappy with the Dems, but the GOP isn't winning any new friends and isn't above them, they are below them. Remember alot of people unhappy with the Dems are progressives that feel this administration is too conservative (healthcare was 'way too conservative for many on the left)

And still the public says that Obama inherited the mess 40% versus "it's his" 27%

So I don't see where "any" GOP candidate could beat Obama at all, right now, today. Too much baggage, too far to the right to appeal to any center, which decides the election. Reagan won on the center, not the base. The people who are voting GOP say they do so "primarily to cut government spending" - yet Bush took us from surplus to massive deficit, started two wars, etc. People know that.

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?

Clinton "cooked the books"! If you don't know THAT, further comments are unecessary!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Clinton "cooked the books"! If you don't know THAT, further comments are unecessary!

The books can be cooked to all the extent your imaginograph wants them to be, yet Bush still added trillions to that. Cold fact, can't change it.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Clinton "cooked the books"! If you don't know THAT, further comments are unecessary!

For all the crap he gets, much deserved, Clinton was an excellent President, bad husband and brilliant Statesman.

Originally Posted by Riot

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?

If the downward trend continues it will be Romney. He "fixed" the Winter Olympics.

[Riot]

I think Romney is the only possible top of the ticket right now.

[Honu]

Yep inherited a mess thats for sure ...has no clue what to do that is for sure also. How can a guy who has never led anybody or done anything but sign up voters have a clue how to run a country? Its not his fault , its his handlers you know Gearoge Soros and Ayres who takes credit for one of Obama's books. His handlers had over expectations and really had he came into power in a less hard time he might have had a chance like Bill Clinton did. His "vision" is not on track with most of America and thats ok everyone makes mistakes, and his was thinking he had enough knowledge or understanding of the American people to lead them and achieve their goals.
The guy has given a man named Cass Sunstein a regulatory position , you know the guy who thinks animals should have lawyers and that its perfectly fine to manipulate the American people to come around to the governments way of thinking , its called a nudge.
Im thinking America is wising up to the fact that they have no real leader who is not respected by most world governments. You know most world leaders thought it was pretty crappy for Obama to dis his own country while in the country of others , just sayin.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Honu

Yep inherited a mess thats for sure ...has no clue what to do that is for sure also. How can a guy who has never led anybody or done anything but sign up voters have a clue how to run a country? Its not his fault , its his handlers you know Gearoge Soros and Ayres who takes credit for one of Obama's books. His handlers had over expectations and really had he came into power in a less hard time he might have had a chance like Bill Clinton did. His "vision" is not on track with most of America and thats ok everyone makes mistakes, and his was thinking he had enough knowledge or understanding of the American people to lead them and achieve their goals.
The guy has given a man named Cass Sunstein a regulatory position , you know the guy who thinks animals should have lawyers and that its perfectly fine to manipulate the American people to come around to the governments way of thinking , its called a nudge.
Im thinking America is wising up to the fact that they have no real leader who is not respected by most world governments. You know most world leaders thought it was pretty crappy for Obama to dis his own country while in the country of others , just sayin.

I'm not sure saying that maybe the US isn't always right equals dissing his own country. I'm glad he "apoligized"..even though he didn't..for all the sh*t Bush did.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Obama's approval numbers are low now, yes. But look at the Dem vs GOP numbers - the GOP is still at the bottom. The views on the GOP positive for dealing with issues is still lower than the Dems, very low.

For a GOP vs Dem congress this fall, right now the GOP only barely wins by 2% points.

So people are unhappy with the Dems, but the GOP isn't winning any new friends and isn't above them, they are below them. Remember alot of people unhappy with the Dems are progressives that feel this administration is too conservative (healthcare was 'way too conservative for many on the left)

And still the public says that Obama inherited the mess 40% versus "it's his" 27%

So I don't see where "any" GOP candidate could beat Obama at all, right now, today. Too much baggage, too far to the right to appeal to any center, which decides the election. Reagan won on the center, not the base. The people who are voting GOP say they do so "primarily to cut government spending" - yet Bush took us from surplus to massive deficit, started two wars, etc. People know that.

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?

I guess we'll see what happens in November. That article makes it sound like the Republicans are going to have huge gains in the House and Senate in the November elections. It said that it is possible that the Republicans could even gain control of both the House and Senate.

You say that the centrists may not support a Republican because they may feel he is too far to the right. I would argue that many of those centrists would not vote for Obama because they may now feel that he's too far to the left. We will see.

I assume you do realize that the Republicans will pick up seats in November. There is no doubt about that. The questions is how many seats.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Obama's approval numbers are low now, yes. But look at the Dem vs GOP numbers - the GOP is still at the bottom. The views on the GOP positive for dealing with issues is still lower than the Dems, very low.
For a GOP vs Dem congress this fall, right now the GOP only barely wins by 2% points.
So people are unhappy with the Dems, but the GOP isn't winning any new friends and isn't above them, they are below them. Remember alot of people unhappy with the Dems are progressives that feel this administration is too conservative (healthcare was 'way too conservative for many on the left)

And still the public says that Obama inherited the mess 40% versus "it's his" 27%

So I don't see where "any" GOP candidate could beat Obama at all, right now, today. Too much baggage, too far to the right to appeal to any center, which decides the election. Reagan won on the center, not the base. The people who are voting GOP say they do so "primarily to cut government spending" - yet Bush took us from surplus to massive deficit, started two wars, etc. People know that.

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?

that's still a win.....:



Forty-five percent prefer a GOP-controlled Congress after this year’s elections, compared with 43 percent who want a Democratic-controlled Congress.

This is the GOP’s second-straight lead on this generic-ballot question, which hasn’t occurred since 2002.

“The Republican Party has a major advantage in the fall, and this poll just reconfirms that,” says Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted this poll with GOP pollster Bill McInturff.

Moreover, 32 percent say their vote this November will be a signal of opposition to President Obama, versus 27 percent who say it will be a signal of support for him. That’s a reversal from January, when 37 percent said their vote would be in support for the president, while 27 percent said it would be in opposition.


then there's this:

The problem is worse in swing areas. Last week's National Public Radio (NPR) poll of the 60 Democratic House seats most at risk this year showed just 37% of voters in these districts agreed Mr. Obama's "economic policies helped avert an even worse crisis and are laying a foundation for our eventual economic recovery"; 57% believed they "have run up a record federal deficit while failing to end the recession or slow the record pace of job losses."

and:

Mr. Obama's failures mean he can't lift his party by campaigning. A Public Policy Poll earlier this month reported that 48% said an Obama endorsement would make them less likely to vote for the candidate receiving it, while only one-third said they would be more likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by the president.

Republicans jumped into the lead last November in Gallup's party generic ballot match-ups among all voters, and since March the GOP has led or been tied every single week except one. In the Rasmussen Poll's tracking among likely voters, Republicans have been ahead by an average of seven points, 44% to 37%, since March. This reflects a significant political development—independents breaking for the GOP.

Then there is the intensity gap, which is particularly important in midterms. In Gallup, 45% of Republicans are "very enthusiastic" about voting this fall versus 24% of Democrats. This staggering 22-point gap is the largest so far this election year. And in the NPR survey of 60 swing Democratic districts, 62% of Republicans rated their likelihood of voting as 10, the highest. Only 37% of Democrats were similarly excited.

[Danzig]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ics_And_Policy


POLITICSJUNE 23, 2010.

Confidence Waning in Obama, U.S. Outlook

By PETER WALLSTEN And ELIZA GRAY
Americans are more pessimistic about the state of the country and less confident in President Barack Obama's leadership than at any point since Mr. Obama entered the White House, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.


Sixty-two percent of adults in the survey feel the country is on the wrong track, the highest level since before the 2008 election. Just one-third think the economy will get better over the next year, a 7-point drop from a month ago and the low point of Mr. Obama's tenure.

Amid anxiety over the nation's course, support for Mr. Obama and other incumbents is eroding. For the first time, more people disapprove of Mr. Obama's job performance than approve. And 57% of voters would prefer to elect a new person to Congress than re-elect their local representatives, the highest share in 18 years.



Support for Mr. Obama and his party is declining among centrist, independent voters. But, more ominous for the president, some in his base also are souring, with 17% of Democrats disapproving of Mr. Obama's job performance, the highest level of his presidency.

[Honu]

West coast conservitive constitutional lesbian with strict fiscal regulations on the federal government will be looking for someone with those ideals. As it stands anyone with 2 years or less in congress with no leadership skills can be a major player.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ics_And_Policy


POLITICSJUNE 23, 2010.

Confidence Waning in Obama, U.S. Outlook

By PETER WALLSTEN And ELIZA GRAY
Americans are more pessimistic about the state of the country and less confident in President Barack Obama's leadership than at any point since Mr. Obama entered the White House, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.


Sixty-two percent of adults in the survey feel the country is on the wrong track, the highest level since before the 2008 election. Just one-third think the economy will get better over the next year, a 7-point drop from a month ago and the low point of Mr. Obama's tenure.

Amid anxiety over the nation's course, support for Mr. Obama and other incumbents is eroding. For the first time, more people disapprove of Mr. Obama's job performance than approve. And 57% of voters would prefer to elect a new person to Congress than re-elect their local representatives, the highest share in 18 years.



Support for Mr. Obama and his party is declining among centrist, independent voters. But, more ominous for the president, some in his base also are souring, with 17% of Democrats disapproving of Mr. Obama's job performance, the highest level of his presidency.

I just read that article. There so many poll numbers in there that look really bad for Obama and the Democrats. The article says that when Obama first became President, 70% of people thought he had "strong leadership qualities". Right now that number is down to 49%. That is a huge drop.

The article makes it sound like the Democrats are going to take huge losses at the polls in November.