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Old 06-23-2010, 01:15 AM
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Rupert..you're a smart dude. Don't burn credibility on this. As I said earlier, the Right's biggest fault is they just bash EVERYTHING...You can only cry wolf so many times before the credible criticism gets lost in the muddle of everything else.
I actually agree with you about this. I think a lot of Republicans go overboard with their constant criticism of Obama, no matter what he does, and these people do lose some credibility. Although I think the left was guilty of this too when Bush was President.

With regards to the whole birthplace issue, I honestly think there could be something there. I may lose some credibility with you guys over it, but the the whole thing just looks fishy to me.

I agree with you that it is still conceivable that Obama could get re-elected, especially if the Tea Party runs as a 3rd party.
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Old 06-23-2010, 04:22 AM
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The Tea Party is not a Party It's a Movement.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:31 AM
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I think the Tea Party is not a "movement", it's a political manipulation by Dick Armey and Fox News.

Obama will be re-elected in a landslide at this point. The GOP has nobody to run against him. Romney-Pawlenty won't do it. None of the most conservative right would survive on the top of the ticket. The bottom of the ticket (whose point would be exactly like Palin, to try and suck the ultra-right hysterical masses in): won't be Palin, Jindal, Rand Paul, Huckabee, Scott Brown. Not much left over there.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:35 AM
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Obama will be re-elected in a landslide at this point.
LOL...oh man, that was funny! Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh this morning.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:39 AM
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LOL...oh man, that was funny! Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh this morning.
I wouldn't have used the phrase "landslide", but you do have to wonder who the Right will end up with. Your "movement"..love that term for them by the way is going to help more than hurt the righties chances.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:44 AM
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it's too soon to tell what will happen in the next election. if it were held right now, regardless of who the right ran, obama would be in for a fight. two wars that obama was supposed to end that continue to drag on, an unpopular health bill, high unemployment, higher debt, higher spending, an oil leak that shows no sign of abating or being fixed....

it wasn't that long ago, after clinton left and bush took over, that people were eulogizing the democratic party. things change, and will change again.
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:03 AM
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One thing I am comfortable saying is, if Cap and Trade passes, Obama has absolutely no shot. His approval ratings will be 2008 Bush like. People care about their paycheck more than they do about the President.
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:51 AM
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I wouldn't have used the phrase "landslide", but you do have to wonder who the Right will end up with. Your "movement"..love that term for them by the way is going to help more than hurt the righties chances.
By all means -- yeah, we don't know who the other candidate will be. I was just amazed that Riot was so certain about the landslide given the same (lack of) information.
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By all means -- yeah, we don't know who the other candidate will be. I was just amazed that Riot was so certain about the landslide given the same (lack of) information.
There is one thing that I am certain of, that Riot will distort anything obama-related regardless of circumstances.

The GOP may be smart by playing it close to the vest with its next potential candidate. By shortening the time between the emergence of the top person and the election, they are lessening the amount of time to dig up dirt, keeping the pressure on obama, and being able to quickly gain momentum with a new guy who the general public doesnt have any opinion about a la Obama especially if things continue to go the way they are in this country.

Of course they may just be a bunch of idiots who dont have a clue like Riot believes but then again they got her to vote for George Bush so they may just have something up their sleeve.
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Old 06-23-2010, 11:00 AM
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LOL...oh man, that was funny! Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh this morning.
Who do you think can beat him?

I think "landslide" will be appropriate by the time 2012 comes around, unless the GOP can make a case for itself as something more than the party of Glenn & Rush & Michelle Bachmann & Palin, etc
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Old 06-23-2010, 12:54 PM
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Who do you think can beat him?

I think "landslide" will be appropriate by the time 2012 comes around, unless the GOP can make a case for itself as something more than the party of Glenn & Rush & Michelle Bachmann & Palin, etc

You do realize he ran on a platform that our troops in Afghanistan and Irag should return home, Gitmo should be closed, and gays should have equal rights at least in the military. None of that happened.

Instead he passed a healthcare bill we ALL will pay into for 4 years before any benefits are recieved, that 60% of Americans didn't want. He has gone on a spending spree like a 13 yr old finding his college money under the guise we need to spend to prevent going bankrupt. He has turned his back on Israel. He wants the borders to stay open yet says we're secure. He released many of the suspected terrorist from Government surveillance and no fly lists, demonstrated recently with the Times Square Bomber. He doesn't believe in State's rights over the Fed.

So unless illegals and enemy countries are allowed to vote I don't think there are enough people like you that will vote for this joke come 2 yrs. Government jobs are about as productive as watering your lawn, and catching the runoff to be used as drinking water and this fool and staff can't realize that.

BTW I remember when he first came to DC he was going to find a new church having realized the minister who married him and baptized all of his children was a racist. You know everything Obama Riot, any word on his choice or was that more of the same B.S. in the name of God?
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:12 PM
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You do realize he ran on a platform that our troops in Afghanistan and Irag should return home, Gitmo should be closed, and gays should have equal rights at least in the military. None of that happened.

Instead he passed a healthcare bill we ALL will pay into for 4 years before any benefits are recieved, that 60% of Americans didn't want. He has gone on a spending spree like a 13 yr old finding his college money under the guise we need to spend to prevent going bankrupt. He has turned his back on Israel. He wants the borders to stay open yet says we're secure. He released many of the suspected terrorist from Government surveillance and no fly lists, demonstrated recently with the Times Square Bomber. He doesn't believe in State's rights over the Fed.

So unless illegals and enemy countries are allowed to vote I don't think there are enough people like you that will vote for this joke come 2 yrs. Government jobs are about as productive as watering your lawn, and catching the runoff to be used as drinking water and this fool and staff can't realize that.

BTW I remember when he first came to DC he was going to find a new church having realized the minister who married him and baptized all of his children was a racist. You know everything Obama Riot, any word on his choice or was that more of the same B.S. in the name of God?
You are slipping too
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Old 06-23-2010, 05:04 PM
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You do realize he ran on a platform that our troops in Afghanistan and Irag should return home, Gitmo should be closed, and gays should have equal rights at least in the military. None of that happened.

Instead he passed a healthcare bill we ALL will pay into for 4 years before any benefits are recieved, that 60% of Americans didn't want. He has gone on a spending spree like a 13 yr old finding his college money under the guise we need to spend to prevent going bankrupt. He has turned his back on Israel. He wants the borders to stay open yet says we're secure. He released many of the suspected terrorist from Government surveillance and no fly lists, demonstrated recently with the Times Square Bomber. He doesn't believe in State's rights over the Fed.

So unless illegals and enemy countries are allowed to vote I don't think there are enough people like you that will vote for this joke come 2 yrs. Government jobs are about as productive as watering your lawn, and catching the runoff to be used as drinking water and this fool and staff can't realize that.

BTW I remember when he first came to DC he was going to find a new church having realized the minister who married him and baptized all of his children was a racist. You know everything Obama Riot, any word on his choice or was that more of the same B.S. in the name of God?
For those with Obama Derangement Syndrome it will obviously be an easy vote for "anyone but".

That's not the majority of the US. It's a most obvious minority. And a statistical minority (southern, white, ultra conservative, rural etc) that is literally getting less numerous as the years go by. The election, as always, will be decided by those in the middle.

Again: who can beat him? It's mid-2010, where are the candidates? Name one remotely viable GOP candidate - especially since the 2012 GOP Convention will be in Tampa.

BTW, this week several GOP congressional candidates for this fall are having BP-sponsored fundraisers. Nothing like advertising you are sucking down BP oil money, in the midst of the greatest environmental disaster ever.
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