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Old 06-22-2010, 05:13 PM
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The certificate of live birth does not prove anything. That is not a birth certificate. You do not need to be born in the US to get one of those.
The certificate of live birth proves, according to the State of Hawaii, that the guy was born in Hawaii. The independent newspaper announcements of the birth verify it happened.

'Zig posted this a long time ago:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html



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Old 06-22-2010, 06:11 PM
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The certificate of live birth proves, according to the State of Hawaii, that the guy was born in Hawaii. The independent newspaper announcements of the birth verify it happened.

'Zig posted this a long time ago:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html



From the article I linked aerlier:

"Obama has only proffered on the Internet a "Certification of Live Birth" to assert he was born in Hawaii, but that document was available to children not born in Hawaii at the time of Obama's birth. Many people remain unaware a child could be born somewhere else and still receive a Hawaii certification. State law specifically allows "an adult or the legal parents of a minor child" to apply to the health department and, upon unspecified proof, be given the birth document."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165633
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:31 PM
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From the article I linked aerlier:

"Obama has only proffered on the Internet a "Certification of Live Birth" to assert he was born in Hawaii, but that document was available to children not born in Hawaii at the time of Obama's birth. Many people remain unaware a child could be born somewhere else and still receive a Hawaii certification. State law specifically allows "an adult or the legal parents of a minor child" to apply to the health department and, upon unspecified proof, be given the birth document."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=165633
Rupert..you're a smart dude. Don't burn credibility on this. As I said earlier, the Right's biggest fault is they just bash EVERYTHING...You can only cry wolf so many times before the credible criticism gets lost in the muddle of everything else.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:46 PM
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Who really cares either you like his policies or you dont and in 2and 1/2 years it can all be changed. It is my opinon that the current President is in so far over his head that he will be relieved to be voted out at the next Presidental election.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:54 PM
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Who really cares either you like his policies or you dont and in 2and 1/2 years it can all be changed. It is my opinon that the current President is in so far over his head that he will be relieved to be voted out at the next Presidental election.
I'm still saying 4 more years..

The Republicans can be counted on to drag out some right wing freak and the tea baggers will do to this freak what Nader did to Gore and I get to watch Nascar implode...beautiful.
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:56 PM
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I'm still saying 4 more years..

The Republicans can be counted on to drag out some right wing freak and the tea baggers will do to this freak what Nader did to Gore and I get to watch Nascar implode...beautiful.
The best part is we all get to vote and see ....unless by then the government decides that voting is bad for us lol
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:15 AM
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Rupert..you're a smart dude. Don't burn credibility on this. As I said earlier, the Right's biggest fault is they just bash EVERYTHING...You can only cry wolf so many times before the credible criticism gets lost in the muddle of everything else.
I actually agree with you about this. I think a lot of Republicans go overboard with their constant criticism of Obama, no matter what he does, and these people do lose some credibility. Although I think the left was guilty of this too when Bush was President.

With regards to the whole birthplace issue, I honestly think there could be something there. I may lose some credibility with you guys over it, but the the whole thing just looks fishy to me.

I agree with you that it is still conceivable that Obama could get re-elected, especially if the Tea Party runs as a 3rd party.
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Old 06-23-2010, 04:22 AM
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The Tea Party is not a Party It's a Movement.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:31 AM
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I think the Tea Party is not a "movement", it's a political manipulation by Dick Armey and Fox News.

Obama will be re-elected in a landslide at this point. The GOP has nobody to run against him. Romney-Pawlenty won't do it. None of the most conservative right would survive on the top of the ticket. The bottom of the ticket (whose point would be exactly like Palin, to try and suck the ultra-right hysterical masses in): won't be Palin, Jindal, Rand Paul, Huckabee, Scott Brown. Not much left over there.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:35 AM
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Obama will be re-elected in a landslide at this point.
LOL...oh man, that was funny! Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh this morning.
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Old 06-23-2010, 06:52 AM
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Rupert..you're a smart dude. Don't burn credibility on this. As I said earlier, the Right's biggest fault is they just bash EVERYTHING...You can only cry wolf so many times before the credible criticism gets lost in the muddle of everything else.
You must have missed the Bush years when Democrats took bashing to a new level.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:17 AM
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You must have missed the Bush years when Democrats took bashing to a new level.
Outside of the Iraq war, I never saw the hysteria against Bush that the right generates against Obama. The left doesn't have...and doesn't need..the Limbaugh's, Becks, etc to whip up the masses.
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Outside of the Iraq war, I never saw the hysteria against Bush that the right generates against Obama. The left doesn't have...and doesn't need..the Limbaugh's, Becks, etc to whip up the masses.
they don't have limbaughs and becks for lack of trying...liberal radio always fails for whatever reason...

and i laugh when folks say obama is trying to tear up the constitution, since a couple years ago the same was being said about bush with the patriot act.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:50 PM
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Outside of the Iraq war, I never saw the hysteria against Bush that the right generates against Obama. The left doesn't have...and doesn't need..the Limbaugh's, Becks, etc to whip up the masses.
Well the left does have MSNBC. You know Keith, Rachel. The left also has Bill Mahar on HBO among others.

I think what you saw with President Bush was the hate the opposition had for him. At least thats what I saw.
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