Crist: The great distaffers..

dagolfer33 · #1 06-21-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy

Just to add to Goldikova's impressive credentials that 6 of her 9 G1 triumphs are against males!

....psstt....be quiet. We arent discussing horses that ship all over the world and beat all comers. We are just trying our best to refute that Zenyatta belongs in the discussion of one of the greatest female horses in the U.S. of all time.

Indian Charlie · #2 06-21-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33

....psstt....be quiet. We arent discussing horses that ship all over the world and beat all comers. We are just trying our best to refute that Zenyatta belongs in the discussion of one of the greatest female horses in the U.S. of all time.

Don't forget, according to one of the Zenyattards here, Goldikova is nothing since she couldn't win the BCC, which is the only race that matters (unless Z doesn't run there).

I believe, but I could be mistaken, that it was the smoothest of the Zenyattards that said that.

dagolfer33 · #3 06-21-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Don't forget, according to one of the Zenyattards here, Goldikova is nothing since she couldn't win the BCC, which is the only race that matters (unless Z doesn't run there).

I believe, but I could be mistaken, that it was the smoothest of the Zenyattards that said that.

You're talking about that guy who is affiliated with that cheating football program aren't you.

Smooth Operator · #4 06-22-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Don't forget, according to one of the Zenyattards here, Goldikova is nothing since she couldn't win the BCC, which is the only race that matters (unless Z doesn't run there).

I believe, but I could be mistaken, that it was the smoothest of the Zenyattards that said that.

I consider classic distance runners inherently superior to sprinters and strict milers, Indian boy.

If this Goldilocks is so great, why didn't they stick her in the BCC (or the BCT) last year?

Not surprisingly, both of those contests have significantly higher purses than the BCM.

slotdirt · #5 06-22-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

I consider classic distance runners inherently superior to sprinters and strict milers, Indian boy.

If this Goldilocks is so great, why didn't they stick her in the BCC (or the BCT) last year?

Not surprisingly, both of those contests have significantly higher purses than the BCM.

I'm just going to go ahead and go out on a limb here, but I'm guessing - just guessing - that she was in the Mile because she's a...miler. Crazy but true.

Smooth Operator · #6 06-22-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I'm just going to go ahead and go out on a limb here, but I'm guessing - just guessing - that she was in the Mile because she's a...miler. Crazy but true.

Exactly, dirtslot

Not "bashing" Goldilocks … just happen to think that top classic distance runners (like Z) are superior to strict milers.

ateamstupid · #7 06-22-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Exactly, dirtslot

Not "bashing" Goldilocks … just happen to think that top classic distance runners (like Z) are superior to strict milers.

I generally agree, and I would still take Goldikova over Zenyatta every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Her accomplishments dwarf Zenyatta's that heavily.

slotdirt · #8 06-22-2010, 03:05 PM

Why, because they're running a mile and not some artificially arbitrary distance that measures superiority?

hoovesupsideyourhead · #9 06-22-2010, 03:05 PM

IMO Zenyatta is not a horse you can measure with speed figs or final times as in other horses, who knows maybe all that are in her corner are totally wrong about her, we've been hoodwinked by the campaign and Sheriff's great placement of 17 times in her career

thats how the greats are measured as you say why is zen not measured the same way..

your basic problem that i can see is that most all people like the horse..'i also think she is fantasic and a joy to see race' just
not to the extent that she is in the same time zone with the 'great' horses
of the past..the ones that get measured by who they ran vs and where and with speed figs and final times..get past all that and zen is no 1

KirisClown · #10 06-22-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

If this Goldilocks is so great, why didn't they stick her in the BCC (or the BCT) last year?

The connections have no imagination, they refuse to challenge her..

10 pnt move up · #11 06-22-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown

The connections have no imagination, they refuse to challenge her..

so far this year has been a very uninspiring campaign.

CSC · #12 06-22-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown

The connections have no imagination, they refuse to challenge her..

If she goes in the BC Classic, would we not all agree here this is somewhat a challenge?

KirisClown · #13 06-22-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC

If she goes in the BC Classic, would we not all agree here this is somewhat a challenge?

I wasn't serious.. She routinely faces males and travels all over, I think she's been challenged plenty.

CSC · #14 06-22-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown

I wasn't serious.. She routinely faces males and travels all over, I think she's been challenged plenty.

That is the question all fans want answered, even Zenyatta's fans would say this. I wish she ran in the Foster but didn't so we are left with a fall campaign that may end at Belmont/CD. If so, it will answer some final questions, right?