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Old 06-14-2010, 07:20 PM
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Obviously you can't make Zenyatta face the boys or race on real dirt. But Rachel looks to be back near top form, I'm sure fans of both would love to see RA go west. RA has no streak on the line, nothing to lose by facing Z on her own terms. I say step up and make something happen. I'm a fan of both, but I think Rachel would win if they met at Del Mar.
yeah, that's not gonna happen. no way jess jackson made so much about not running on poly in the bc but will go ahead and do that now.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:30 PM
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yeah, that's not gonna happen. no way jess jackson made so much about not running on poly in the bc but will go ahead and do that now.
But that was after such a taxing campaign. Sometimes sport is just about being the bigger man and stepping up. The RA camp has the chance to say OK we're giving you every advantage and we're still gonna kick you ass.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:31 PM
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But that was after such a taxing campaign. Sometimes sport is just about being the bigger man and stepping up. The RA camp has the chance to say OK we're giving you every advantage and we're still gonna kick you ass.
And Zenyatta's connections don't have the same chance?

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Old 06-14-2010, 07:37 PM
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And Zenyatta's connections don't have the same chance?

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Yes they do, but they seem to be the ones ducking. So step up and play their game. Would they have the nerve to duck in their own backyard?
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:40 PM
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Yes they do, but they seem to be the ones ducking. So step up and play their game. Would they have the nerve to duck in their own backyard?
Yes.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:43 PM
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Yes.
You're right, of course. But seeing them turn tail and run might be better than beating them on the track.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:46 PM
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You're right, of course. But seeing them turn tail and run might be better than beating them on the track.
I just want to see them get hit with a pie.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:51 PM
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You're right, of course. But seeing them turn tail and run might be better than beating them on the track.
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said I could only put 4 trophies up, but YES that would really shut the Zen backers up.
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Old 06-14-2010, 09:18 PM
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Yes they do, but they seem to be the ones ducking. So step up and play their game. Would they have the nerve to duck in their own backyard?
Yep, just like they ducked the race in Hot Springs. Now, someone please rebut that statement.
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Old 06-14-2010, 09:27 PM
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Yep, just like they ducked the race in Hot Springs. Now, someone please rebut that statement.
I'm giving camp RA the benefit of the doubt that they weren't quite ready at that point, which is another reason why they should be the ones to step up.

They both seem to be coming into top form now, which is how I'd like to see them square off. So let's go ... next time out.
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Old 06-14-2010, 09:54 PM
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I'm giving camp RA the benefit of the doubt that they weren't quite ready at that point, which is another reason why they should be the ones to step up.

They both seem to be coming into top form now, which is how I'd like to see them square off. So let's go ... next time out.
Sounds good, the timing would be right. I'm so ready to get beyond this and to the next point of contention.......Quality Road is better than both of them right now.
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Old 06-14-2010, 09:28 PM
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Yep, just like they ducked the race in Hot Springs. Now, someone please rebut that statement.

they had every reason not to go to that race, and you know it. the horse was clearly not ready at that point. it was wrong of jackson to even make the attempt, to say he'd be there.
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:44 PM
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Yes they do, but they seem to be the ones ducking. So step up and play their game. Would they have the nerve to duck in their own backyard?
They seem to be the ones ducking? What world do you live in?

"Uh, well, um... We don't run on poly."

"Even after two preps, we still aren't happy with her 'fitness.'"
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:06 PM
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They seem to be the ones ducking? What world do you live in?

"Uh, well, um... We don't run on poly."

"Even after two preps, we still aren't happy with her 'fitness.'"
I guess I should say they seem to be the ones ducking now. And in case you missed the main point, I'm saying the RA camp should cave and make the trip west since they skipped out on the Apple Blossom.
I'm a fan of RA and Zen and would just like to see them race sooner than later. Even if they both plan on making the Classic, that's a long way off and a lot can go wrong between now and then.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:09 PM
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Yeah, JB floated this idea about trying to get them together in the Ruffian on the T-G board the other night.

Really no reason for the dual BC champion mare to start chasing some 1 for 3 filly around the country, at this point.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:35 PM
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They seem to be the ones ducking? What world do you live in?

"Uh, well, um... We don't run on poly."

"Even after two preps, we still aren't happy with her 'fitness.'"
The world where real champions aren't proven on that bullshit surface Zenyatta makes her home on. Two preps? She should've run in the Vanity this weekend? No, sorry, that's not how it works. You want to prove yourself in America, you run on dirt, not recycled tires.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:44 PM
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Well, MR, when your filly only has a single win … in a G2 contest, no less … on the year, ya gotta start takin' some chances.


We'd love to see RA in SoCal…
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:11 AM
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The world where real champions aren't proven on that bullshit surface Zenyatta makes her home on. Two preps? She should've run in the Vanity this weekend? No, sorry, that's not how it works. You want to prove yourself in America, you run on dirt, not recycled tires.
So Zenyatta has to be shipped all over the country to prove herself? She's already tried dirt twice. She likes it. 2-2, with two Grade I's. The last time out on dirt, she actually showed up at the playground after school.

And I really don't understand why people keep saying she hasn't beaten anyone. "Zenyatta has defeated Grade I or Group 1 winners Gio Ponti, Twice Over, 2009 Belmont Stakes winner Summer Bird, Colonel John, Richard's Kid, 2009 Kentucky Derby winner Mine That Bird, Rip Van Winkle, Einstein, Ginger Punch, Hystericalady, Life Is Sweet, Tough Tiz's Sis, Romance Is Diane, Double Trouble, Sealy Hill, Cocoa Beach, Santa Teresita, Carriage Trail, and Music Note." [Wikipedia ]

Hey, I fell in love with Rachel Alexandra last summer like everyone else. She's my girl. I just don't see how people can dismiss Zenyatta so easily or say she's overrated. If I were Team Rachel, that horse would scare the $hit out of me.
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