Talk about your bad beats.

Patrick333 · #1 06-03-2010, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

If they add instant replay then they definitely need to put the pitchers on the clock.

Agreed. Plus they have to keep the hitters in the batters box.

horseofcourse · #2 06-03-2010, 09:25 AM

I think the bigger story of the game was 1 hour and 44 minutes. The Yankees and Red Sox are launching an investigation. That's 2 and a half innings for them! It was horrendous (the call). Very sad, it was the one thing the Indians could have accomplished this year....being perfected.

MaTH716 · #3 06-03-2010, 09:38 AM

Also getting lost in the midst of this crime, is that catch by Austin Jackson in the 9th. Wow!

timmgirvan · #4 06-03-2010, 10:37 AM

umpire shoulda been moving towards second base to get the angle...lazy....he should be fined.

ateamstupid · #5 06-03-2010, 10:38 AM

MLB might be reviewing/overturning the call. While I'm sure baseball purists won't want to see that, it's the right thing to do, for both Galarraga and Joyce.

MaTH716 · #6 06-03-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

MLB might be reviewing/overturning the call. While I'm sure baseball purists won't want to see that, it's the right thing to do, for both Galarraga and Joyce.

Obviously it would be the right thing to do. The kid would get into the books where he deserves to be. But I'm not sure how I feel about it. The whole blown call deal took the starch out of the moment that he and the Tigers deserved. Also, I do think it's a dangerous precedent that MLB would be setting.

ninetoone · #7 06-03-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

MLB might be reviewing/overturning the call. While I'm sure baseball purists won't want to see that, it's the right thing to do, for both Galarraga and Joyce.

I agree with this.

Bigsmc · #8 06-03-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

MLB might be reviewing/overturning the call. While I'm sure baseball purists won't want to see that, it's the right thing to do, for both Galarraga and Joyce.

What about every other blow call? Changing this call would set a very dangerous precedent.

Let this play be the final push towards replay. Fix it going forward and move on.

ateamstupid · #9 06-03-2010, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc

What about every other blow call? Changing this call would set a very dangerous precedent.

Let this play be the final push towards replay. Fix it going forward and move on.

What about them? No one's asking for sweeping reviews. How often are calls like this made? It's the only way to remedy the situation. Instating replay doesn't give Galarraga his perfect game and it doesn't help Joyce overcome this red mark.

satan's twin · #10 06-03-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

MLB might be reviewing/overturning the call. While I'm sure baseball purists won't want to see that, it's the right thing to do, for both Galarraga and Joyce.

It's not the right thing to do. It's horrible for Galarraga that he lost the perfecto, but there is no allowance in the rule book that says the commissioner can go back and change a call in the interest of fairness. Would the commish change the call if Galarraga was working on a one hitter and ended up with a two-hitter? No. Nor should he do it here. One of the most endearing elements of baseball is that it includes the errors and omissions of all its participants. Legends are created and remembered by just these kinds of mistakes. Far more memorable than pitching the 21st perfect game in baseball history will be the way Galarraga has responded: with humility, dignity and class.

includes the human element

MaTH716 · #11 06-03-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

umpire shoulda been moving towards second base to get the angle...lazy....he should be fined.

He couldn't, Miggy had to go to his right to get the ball. It was probably an easier play for the 2nd baseman who was behind Caberra. So there was really nowhere else Joyce could go without possibly interfering with the play.

timmgirvan · #12 06-03-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

He couldn't, Miggy had to go to his right to get the ball. It was probably an easier play for the 2nd baseman who was behind Caberra. So there was really nowhere else Joyce could go without possibly interfering with the play.

as long as he stayed behing the basepath/play he woulda be fine to get angle

MaTH716 · #13 06-03-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

as long as he stayed behing the basepath/play he woulda be fine to get angle

He was were he belonged. If for some reason he thought he was out of position he should have asked for help and then maybe the right call would have been made.

Cannon Shell · #14 06-03-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

as long as he stayed behing the basepath/play he woulda be fine to get angle

The angle was fine. The guy was in the right position. He simply blew the call

Antitrust32 · #15 06-03-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

umpire shoulda been moving towards second base to get the angle...lazy....he should be fined.

Cabrera should have let the second baseman field the ball and stayed on first and we wouldnt have this situation! He would have been out by a mile! (though a half step is still technically a mile in baseball)

Still doesnt change the fact that it was a blown call and was, for real, a perfect game... but I wonder why the 1st basemen had to field that ball.

Cannon Shell · #16 06-03-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Cabrera should have let the second baseman field the ball and stayed on first and we wouldnt have this situation! He would have been out by a mile! (though a half step is still technically a mile in baseball)

Still doesnt change the fact that it was a blown call and was, for real, a perfect game... but I wonder why the 1st basemen had to field that ball.

It would have been a much tougher play for the 2nd baseman who was moving towards right field and would have had to have stopped and thrown.

Antitrust32 · #17 06-03-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It would have been a much tougher play for the 2nd baseman who was moving towards right field and would have had to have stopped and thrown.

i disagree. From my viewpoint the second basement was basically right behind the ball (maybe 10-15 feet behind Cabrera) when Cabrera got the ball. Easy play.

Cannon Shell · #18 06-03-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

umpire shoulda been moving towards second base to get the angle...lazy....he should be fined.

you are kidding right?