Public will decide Monmouth's fate

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I guess you have never read one of my rants against statebred programs...
The abundance of NYbred races is something I have pointed out many times when discussing the deterioration of NY racing. They have there place but have been relied on too heavily IMO.
It really has nothing to do with them being Jerseybreds. It has to do with the thought that you have that seasonal employees or someone else "deserves" the money more. It is the horsemans money by contract, the tracks just dole it out. I'm sure you realize that as the role of politicians increases in the sport, things like suporting jobs (local horseman, breeders, etc) and local products including horses is a tradeoff. As a matter of fact I would guarantee you that there is a stipulation in the contract that mandates the number of races and purses paid out to statebreds. Would it be better to cut the purses in half and run twice as many NJB races?

Basically then we're lamenting the same thing. I know that the jobs are not applicable but did want to mention in the entire discussion that there are a lot of employees getting shafted.

The NY bred purses have been reduced recently. Are there still too many NY bred races? Sure. I've believed for quite some time that the proliferation of the La Bred program has kept FG from becoming a premier winter signal.

I guess my issue is that you have horses that are worth X amount, who would run for X amount and are actually running for X times 5. Is it a big deal? Not really, but 80k for Jersey bred MSWs is an awful lot. If I start rolling quarters now and turning in cans do you think you could find one for me and you to claim?

NT

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Basically then we're lamenting the same thing. I know that the jobs are not applicable but did want to mention in the entire discussion that there are a lot of employees getting shafted.

The NY bred purses have been reduced recently. Are there still too many NY bred races? Sure. I've believed for quite some time that the proliferation of the La Bred program has kept FG from becoming a premier winter signal.

I guess my issue is that you have horses that are worth X amount, who would run for X amount and are actually running for X times 5. Is it a big deal? Not really, but 80k for Jersey bred MSWs is an awful lot. If I start rolling quarters now and turning in cans do you think you could find one for me and you to claim?

NT

I agree that 80k is kind of crazy for that class of horse but there are reasons beyond the obvious why they are as we have discussed. I thought that 18k was a lot for kickin n screamins race yesterday based on the quality or lack of quality. But a lot of that is because we have been conditioned to smaller purses that were the norm for so long. Higher purses will lead to better quality over the long haul though in Monmouths case who knows how long this will play out. believe me there are a lot of people who have asked the same question about Jersey breds and if you could guarantee that those purses would be in effect for say 10 years you would see a definite increase in the quality of NJ breds. The quality of (non-Strawbridge) PA breds will dramatically increase over the next few years because people have sent a whole lot of pretty good mares there in foal to good stallions. The program was almost dormant but now the Breeders awards and purse incentives are so good that a lot of KY breeders are dropping a significant amount of their horses there. It is hard to see now but it is coming. That doesn't mean that Philly park is going to become Belmont but better horses does equal better races. Naturally the takeout issues among others still remain there but the racing has gotten better and should improve as people look to run the better bred PA breds there for the incentives.