Super Savings Indeed

randallscott35 · #1 05-14-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

lol you caught that, I was being facetious chillax

, seriously though LAL is by far the most talented horse in the race and it finally comes together for him.

He needs to show it. This is his chance.

CSC · #2 05-14-2010, 10:03 AM

Super Saver is 1 for 5 away from Churchill Downs, does this scare anyone?

randallscott35 · #3 05-14-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

Super Saver is 1 for 5 away from Churchill Downs, does this scare anyone?

Small sample, not as if he's been awful is his other performances.

CSC · #4 05-14-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Small sample, not as if he's been awful is his other performances.

I'm not saying he is not possible, he is the safest bet in the race; however both of his wins came at CD where he rode the rail with Borel aboard that it atleast makes me think it may be worth taking a shot at him considering he will be the favorite.

2Hot4TV · #5 05-14-2010, 06:30 PM

Now if LAL wins by daylite, does this put a kink in GoGo's armor as a Triple Crown big race rider?Do we see a pattern or has he just been finding the wrong horses?

my miss storm cat · #6 05-14-2010, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC

Super Saver is 1 for 5 away from Churchill Downs, does this scare anyone?

Doesn't scare me... I'm not using him in the top spot.

If I'm wrong I'll be the first to admit it but no,I don't see him winning tomorrow.

That said, I know it's a lot easier to predict who will lose than who will win.

I'm using Caracortado on top and Paddy, Aikenite and Jackson Bend in some order underneath.

Maybe I'll use SS in a super.

Good luck to all his fans and I wish him well of course, a safe trip home. I don't think he's the Triple Crown winner we'd all love to see...

Maybe next year.

CSC · #7 05-15-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Doesn't scare me... I'm not using him in the top spot.

If I'm wrong I'll be the first to admit it but no,I don't see him winning tomorrow.

That said, I know it's a lot easier to predict who will lose than who will win.

I'm using Caracortado on top and Paddy, Aikenite and Jackson Bend in some order underneath.

Maybe I'll use SS in a super.

Good luck to all his fans and I wish him well of course, a safe trip home. I don't think he's the Triple Crown winner we'd all love to see...

Maybe next year.

Hey Stormcat,
The pace is what I will be watching, if it is anything around 47 as opposed to 46 for the half I would expect it will favor the forwardly placed horses. If it is 46 a closer could possibly take it. Aikenite will be taken back for one run, if he gets 46 to run at he has a shot, obviously I am hoping for some heat up front. Goodluck with your picks!

2Hot4TV · #8 05-15-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

Hey Stormcat,
The pace is what I will be watching, if it is anything around 47 as opposed to 46 for the half I would expect it will favor the forwardly placed horses. If it is 46 a closer could possibly take it. Aikenite will be taken back for one run, if he gets 46 to run at he has a shot, obviously I am hoping for some heat up front. Goodluck with your picks!

When was the last time a closer won this race?

Seems to me that it has favored the speed and pace ( 1,2,3,) positions.

philcski · #9 05-15-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

When was the last time a closer won this race?

Seems to me that it has favored the speed and pace ( 1,2,3,) positions.

2007
2006
2005

slotdirt · #10 05-15-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

2007
2006
2005

Afleet Alex was a closer? Bernardini? With all due respect, but really?

CSC · #11 05-15-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

When was the last time a closer won this race?

Seems to me that it has favored the speed and pace ( 1,2,3,) positions.

In addition closers have run well here that didn't win, Mine That Bird, Magic Wisener, Captain Bolgit ect...I'm sure I'm missing a few but it's not an impossible track to make up ground on. Obcourse it all depends if there is some pace to run at.

randallscott35 · #12 05-15-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

In addition closers have run well here that didn't win, Mine That Bird, Magic Wisener, Captain Bolgit ect...I'm sure I'm missing a few but it's not an impossible track to make up ground on. Obcourse it all depends if there is some pace to run at.

Its a fair track.

johnny pinwheel · #13 05-14-2010, 10:03 AM

put it this way . if looking at lucky loses again, hes this years pyro. who in their right mind would play chalk on that....i don't care if he wins and beats me. i'll use him in exactas(back up) but if super saver is anywhere near 5-2 or 3-1 even its a ...go to the window. the horse won for fun wet , dry i could give a crap that derby was not even close. the new horses look like junk......super saver with LAL, dublin, paddy o prado.

Danzig · #14 05-14-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

put it this way . if looking at lucky loses again, hes this years pyro. who in their right mind would play chalk on that....i don't care if he wins and beats me. i'll use him in exactas(back up) but if super saver is anywhere near 5-2 or 3-1 even its a ...go to the window. the horse won for fun wet , dry i could give a crap that derby was not even close. the new horses look like junk......super saver with LAL, dublin, paddy o prado.

pyro won too many races in the spring for looking at lucky to be him. looking at lucky is more like this years dollar bill-one hard luck story after another.

the more i think about it, the more i think super saver will win. playing him with the dutrow horse.

johnny pinwheel · #15 05-15-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

pyro won too many races in the spring for looking at lucky to be him. looking at lucky is more like this years dollar bill-one hard luck story after another.

the more i think about it, the more i think super saver will win. playing him with the dutrow horse.

you might be right. i can not bet this horse as the favorite. i'm tired of the excuses. thats how the derby and many of these big races go. plus, people have to realize that horses that get perfect trips often have tactical speed like super saver. horses like ice box and looking at lucky have problems in half their starts. not that they can't win, its just harder. i don't know what race people saw in the derby, super saver won by almost three lengths and the second horse is not running today. post position...exucse after excuse, this horse (LAL) still has to make up about 8 lenghts as the favorite.....good luck on that happening.

Danzig · #16 05-15-2010, 08:53 AM

hard to tell what will happen, the derby was on a sloppy track after all. no doubt that had an affect. question is, how much of an affect? super saver seems to have gotten good at the right time, and seems to be thriving. no other horse in the field seems to be in that same boat as him, which is why i think he's the most likely winner. looking at lucky imo hasn't shown the huge ability many think he has this year. i think he's on par with several other horses. his race in arkansas showed that. he evidently was a precocious two year old, who hasn't improved as they've matured.

now, watch him win...

but i just think, based on what he's done this year, he's not the big horse.