Zenyatta v. Rail Trip??

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I understand your point, but I think you do have to give them some credit for their trip to Oaklawn this year. Hopefully she does run in the HGC following her next race, and then comes East to run in a big race. I'd love to see it, and if she does run on dirt against a really good dirt horse, I'll almost certainly be betting against her.
My point was simply that I can't really blame them for wanting to run in Cali for awhile, but if they stay in Cali but choose not to go in the HGC, that's pretty weak.

Who are the really good 1 1/8th or beyond horses, the only one with any real ability is slated to run four times this year in Quality Road, who else?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Who are the really good 1 1/8th or beyond horses, the only one with any real ability is slated to run four times this year in Quality Road, who else?

He's only slated to run in the Met Mile and the BC Classic?

He'll be in at least two of the following four preparing for the BCC: Suburban, Whitney, Woodward, Jockey Club Gold Cup.

NT

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

He's only slated to run in the Met Mile and the BC Classic?

He'll be in at least two of the following four preparing for the BCC: Suburban, Whitney, Woodward, Jockey Club Gold Cup.

NT

ok, 5 races then....answer the question, who is this horse I am waiting to bet on as I asked? Cause I dont see much of anything that can run long on dirt.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

ok, 5 races then....answer the question, who is this horse I am waiting to bet on as I asked? Cause I dont see much of anything that can run long on dirt.

Wait until some of the real handicap races start being run.

NT

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

ok, 5 races then....answer the question, who is this horse I am waiting to bet on as I asked? Cause I dont see much of anything that can run long on dirt.

I thought we've been through this....Quality Road has run twice this year ( the Hal's Hope and Donn ) and will run at least four more times this year ( Met, Whitney, Woodward and/or JCGC, and BC Classic ) assuming he stays sound. No, nobody is saying that is an abundance of races...but stop trying to make Zenyatta look less bad

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I thought we've been through this....Quality Road has run twice this year ( the Hal's Hope and Donn ) and will run at least four more times this year ( Met, Whitney, Woodward and/or JCGC, and BC Classic ) assuming he stays sound. No, nobody is saying that is an abundance of races...but stop trying to make Zenyatta look less bad

We know your position, she sucks

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

ok, 5 races then....answer the question, who is this horse I am waiting to bet on as I asked? Cause I dont see much of anything that can run long on dirt.

What's wrong with Quality Road at 9f?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

What's wrong with Quality Road at 9f?

The way Pletcher's horses are running, nothing. The question is can he keep it up the rest of the year?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

What's wrong with Quality Road at 9f?

He is the only one I see that has run on dirt with real ability, and that includes super saver. I could be wrong about that horse but I think he got lucky to get 10 furlongs last week.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Who are the really good 1 1/8th or beyond horses, the only one with any real ability is slated to run four times this year in Quality Road, who else?

There sure aren't very many, you're right about that.
Right now I would almost certainly bet on Quality Road and Rachel Alexandra in a dirt race against Zenyatta. Beyond that? Who knows. The 3yo crop sure doesn't look like much, but it is always possible that somebody in the crop (Ice Box? Super Saver? somebody else?) continues to improve and therefore turns into a legitimate 9f+ horse.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by miraja2

There sure aren't very many, you're right about that.
Right now I would almost certainly bet on Quality Road and Rachel Alexandra in a dirt race against Zenyatta. Beyond that? Who knows. The 3yo crop sure doesn't look like much, but it is always possible that somebody in the crop (Ice Box? Super Saver? somebody else?) continues to improve and therefore turns into a legitimate 9f+ horse.

Rachel is toast. Her last race last year cooked her. Can't believe people doubt a horse that has never lost. Don't care if she was running on glass. QR would be a good race but we may never see it

[rgustafson]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Who are the really good 1 1/8th or beyond horses, the only one with any real ability is slated to run four times this year in Quality Road, who else?

I believe that there is one other older horse besides Quality Road, who, if he stays healthy, could be a real threat at these longer distances. That horse is Battle Plan, also trained by Pletcher. Anyone know what race he is pointing to next?