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05-06-2010, 07:26 AM
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Borel In Hall Of Fame?
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05-06-2010, 08:02 AM
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05-06-2010, 08:18 AM
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I didn't read the article, but I don't see how a guy who's now won three Derbys doesn't make his way to Saratoga.
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05-06-2010, 08:25 AM
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how could he be kept out the most important race of the year in america
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05-06-2010, 08:28 AM
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So if he had won only 2 he doesn't get in?
I mean Johnny V has a total of none and he is a HOF for sure....Maybe a bit too much emphasis on one race here. Not saying he doesn't belong but the Derby is not the only important race.
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05-06-2010, 08:30 AM
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05-06-2010, 08:35 AM
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Johnny V. could win 37 Westchesters, 23 Lake Georges, and 403 Stuyvesants, and it wouldn't match up to Calvin's three Derbys. Like Travis said.
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05-06-2010, 08:39 AM
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05-06-2010, 08:43 AM
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05-06-2010, 08:46 AM
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I don't want Johnny V in the Hall of Fame. He's made a career out of riding those Pletcher juice jobs -- you know, the ones that just keep coming in the stretch-- and giving horses those abusive wide trips. When's the last time he even sniffed the rail? Mike the EUNUCH has more balls than Johnny V.
No EUNUCHS in the Hall. It's written.
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05-06-2010, 08:50 AM
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3 derby's is enough to even get chantal in randall , that's how it is
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05-06-2010, 08:50 AM
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Maybe Calvin will get an Eclipse award which just might cement a place in the HOF.
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05-06-2010, 08:50 AM
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Velazquez has had plenty of chances in the Derby and failed. Meanwhile, Calvin won on freaking Mine that Bird. I don't think anything else really needs to be said.
Besides, are we comparing JV to Calvin, or debating whether Calvin is HOF-worthy? You're basically saying that Warren Moon (JV) should get in the HOF based on a bunch of gaudy numbers before Terry Bradshaw (Calvin) who always won the big one. I think they probably both deserve enshrinement, but Calvin deserves it more.
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05-06-2010, 08:56 AM
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Mike Kane was the long time communications director of the Hall of Fame. He's very qualified to consider Borel's resume on this topic, and what he lists as the accomplishments to date absolutely place Calvin on the HOF cusp. His career isn't over by a long stretch, so he'll end up with way over 5,000 wins. Fold in these late career heroics on the national stage, and I think you have to acknowledge that Borel is approaching Hall worthiness.
His major stakes wins (Wikipedia) Breeders' Cup Juvenile (2006) Kentucky Derby (2007, 2009, 2010) Preakness Stakes (2009) Super Derby (1991) Arkansas Derby (1993) Count Fleet (1995) Falls City Handicap (1996, 1999, 2003, 2007, 2008) Apple Blossom Handicap (1997, 2001) Fleur de Lis Handicap (1997, 2009) Essex Handicap (1998, 2007) Clark Handicap (1999) Kentucky Cup Classic Handicap (1999) Bashford Manor Stakes (2000, 2008) Oaklawn Handicap (2000) Bourbon Stakes (2002) Silverbulletday Stakes (2003) Ack Ack Handicap (2004) Stephen Foster Handicap (2006) Amsterdam (2006) Tampa Bay Derby (2007) Travers Stakes (2007) Sword Dancer (2007) Alabama Stakes (2007) Jim Dandy Stakes (2007) Razorback Breeders' Cup Handicap (2008) Golden Rod Stakes (2002,2008) Hal's Hope Handicap (2009) Fair Grounds Oaks (2009) Fantasy Stakes (2009) Kentucky Oaks (2009) Louisville Stakes (2009) Haskell Invitational (2009) Woodward Stakes (2009) Mother Goose (2009) Kentucky Jockey Club (2009) Derby Trial (2010)
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05-06-2010, 09:09 AM
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I absolutely think he's a Hall of Famer.
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05-06-2010, 09:11 AM
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What jockey isnt a hall of famer?
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05-06-2010, 09:21 AM
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
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05-06-2010, 09:24 AM
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Grade Inflation Is Everywhere. I agree.
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05-06-2010, 09:40 AM
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Dashawn Parker?
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