Borel In Hall Of Fame?

[Kasept]

Mike Kane was the long time communications director of the Hall of Fame. He's very qualified to consider Borel's resume on this topic, and what he lists as the accomplishments to date absolutely place Calvin on the HOF cusp. His career isn't over by a long stretch, so he'll end up with way over 5,000 wins. Fold in these late career heroics on the national stage, and I think you have to acknowledge that Borel is approaching Hall worthiness.

His major stakes wins (Wikipedia)

Breeders' Cup Juvenile (2006)
Kentucky Derby (2007, 2009, 2010)
Preakness Stakes (2009)

Super Derby (1991)
Arkansas Derby (1993)
Count Fleet (1995)
Falls City Handicap (1996, 1999, 2003, 2007, 2008)
Apple Blossom Handicap (1997, 2001)
Fleur de Lis Handicap (1997, 2009)
Essex Handicap (1998, 2007)
Clark Handicap (1999)
Kentucky Cup Classic Handicap (1999)
Bashford Manor Stakes (2000, 2008)
Oaklawn Handicap (2000)
Bourbon Stakes (2002)
Silverbulletday Stakes (2003)
Ack Ack Handicap (2004)
Stephen Foster Handicap (2006)
Amsterdam (2006)
Tampa Bay Derby (2007)
Travers Stakes (2007)
Sword Dancer (2007)
Alabama Stakes (2007)
Jim Dandy Stakes (2007)
Razorback Breeders' Cup Handicap (2008)
Golden Rod Stakes (2002,2008)
Hal's Hope Handicap (2009)
Fair Grounds Oaks (2009)
Fantasy Stakes (2009)
Kentucky Oaks (2009)
Louisville Stakes (2009)
Haskell Invitational (2009)
Woodward Stakes (2009)
Mother Goose (2009)
Kentucky Jockey Club (2009)
Derby Trial (2010)

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Mike Kane was the long time communications director of the Hall of Fame. He's very qualified to consider Borel's resume on this topic, and what he lists as the accomplishments to date absolutely place Calvin on the HOF cusp. His career isn't over by a long stretch, so he'll end up with way over 5,000 wins. Fold in these late career heroics on the national stage, and I think you have to acknowledge that Borel is approaching Hall worthiness.

His major stakes wins (Wikipedia)

Breeders' Cup Juvenile (2006)
Kentucky Derby (2007, 2009, 2010)
Preakness Stakes (2009)

Super Derby (1991)
Arkansas Derby (1993)
Count Fleet (1995)
Falls City Handicap (1996, 1999, 2003, 2007, 2008)
Apple Blossom Handicap (1997, 2001)
Fleur de Lis Handicap (1997, 2009)
Essex Handicap (1998, 2007)
Clark Handicap (1999)
Kentucky Cup Classic Handicap (1999)
Bashford Manor Stakes (2000, 2008)
Oaklawn Handicap (2000)
Bourbon Stakes (2002)
Silverbulletday Stakes (2003)
Ack Ack Handicap (2004)
Stephen Foster Handicap (2006)
Amsterdam (2006)
Tampa Bay Derby (2007)
Travers Stakes (2007)
Sword Dancer (2007)
Alabama Stakes (2007)
Jim Dandy Stakes (2007)
Razorback Breeders' Cup Handicap (2008)
Golden Rod Stakes (2002,2008)
Hal's Hope Handicap (2009)
Fair Grounds Oaks (2009)
Fantasy Stakes (2009)
Kentucky Oaks (2009)
Louisville Stakes (2009)
Haskell Invitational (2009)
Woodward Stakes (2009)
Mother Goose (2009)
Kentucky Jockey Club (2009)
Derby Trial (2010)

Additionally, he RARELY gets days for careless riding, is well liked amongst the rest of the jockey colony, and is a cult heroic figure here in Kentucky.

I absolutely think he's a Hall of Famer.

[Cannon Shell]

What jockey isnt a hall of famer?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What jockey isnt a hall of famer?

Billy Triollo?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Billy Triollo?

And he was only 1 win away...

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And he was only 1 win away...

All your fault

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

All your fault

I bid you a fine farewell...

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And he was only 1 win away...

that was awesome.

as far as Hall of Fame

I couldn't care less.

They need to put Calvin's whip in the Smithsonian

http://americanhistory.si.edu/

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What jockey isnt a hall of famer?

Grade Inflation Is Everywhere. I agree.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What jockey isnt a hall of famer?

Chin Yang?
Dashawn Parker?

[slotdirt]

Gerald Almodovar?

[randallscott35]

Kayla Stra would be if Vic was her agent.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Kayla Stra would be if Vic was her agent.

I laughed

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Kayla Stra would be if Vic was her agent.

Yeah. Kayla is okay, for those who don't watch GG racing (and still feel the need to comment). If someone works those premature move tendencies out of her, she'd be as good as any female jock in the country. Good thing she's in a colony with R Baze.

[randallscott35]

5.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

Chin Yang?
Dashawn Parker?

Yang is in the Korean jockey school HoF

Parker is in the Mountaineer Park HoF

[Kingturf]

But I would hope they stop basing the Hall Of Fame for Horseracing based on number of wins. I think Russell Baze would fit my argument.

Silky Sullivan Handicap (1981, 1988)
California Derby (1981)
Golden Gate Fields Handicap (1982, 2000)
Bay Meadows Handicap (1982, 1995, 2005)
Oak Tree Invitational Stakes (1984,1989)
El Camino Real Derby
(1984, 1998, 2005, 2006, 2007)
Del Mar Debutante Stakes (1986)
Longacres Mile Handicap (1988, 2003, 2004)
San Carlos Handicap (1990)
San Gorgonio Handicap (1990)
Oak Leaf Stakes (1990)
Bed O' Roses Breeders' Cup Handicap (1991)
Oklahoma Derby (1996)
Jim Beam Stakes (1998)
Lane's End Stakes (1998)
Bay Meadows Breeders' Cup Sprint (2002)
Bay Shore Stakes (2005)
King's Bishop Stakes (2005)
Sunshine Millions Dash (2005)
Churchill Downs Handicap (2006)
Aristides Breeders' Cup Stakes (2006)
Azalea Breeders' Cup Stakes (2008)
California Oaks (2009)
Lost in the Fog Stakes (2009)
Sunshine Millions Classic (2010)
San Francisco Breeders' Cup Mile 2010

Over 10k wins and have not won nothing to write a special book on.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Kingturf

But I would hope they stop basing the Hall Of Fame for Horseracing based on number of wins. I think Russell Baze would fit my argument.

Silky Sullivan Handicap (1981, 1988)
California Derby (1981)
Golden Gate Fields Handicap (1982, 2000)
Bay Meadows Handicap (1982, 1995, 2005)
Oak Tree Invitational Stakes (1984,1989)
El Camino Real Derby
(1984, 1998, 2005, 2006, 2007)
Del Mar Debutante Stakes (1986)
Longacres Mile Handicap (1988, 2003, 2004)
San Carlos Handicap (1990)
San Gorgonio Handicap (1990)
Oak Leaf Stakes (1990)
Bed O' Roses Breeders' Cup Handicap (1991)
Oklahoma Derby (1996)
Jim Beam Stakes (1998)
Lane's End Stakes (1998)
Bay Meadows Breeders' Cup Sprint (2002)
Bay Shore Stakes (2005)
King's Bishop Stakes (2005)
Sunshine Millions Dash (2005)
Churchill Downs Handicap (2006)
Aristides Breeders' Cup Stakes (2006)
Azalea Breeders' Cup Stakes (2008)
California Oaks (2009)
Lost in the Fog Stakes (2009)
Sunshine Millions Classic (2010)
San Francisco Breeders' Cup Mile 2010

Over 10k wins and have not won nothing to write a special book on.

Watch Russell Baze ride today and if the young riders can still put in the effort that he does to win they to will deserve to be in the Hall of Fame, provided that they dont act like Cory Nakatani.

You give Russel Baze the horses that other Hall of Fame riders had and Baze would have also won with them and if the roles were reversed I dont think a single rider in the Hall would of got the wins Russell got with the horse he rode.

[Kingturf]

Answer this; How come when Russell Baze a.k.a Baze Meadow or Russell Gate Field showed up in BC or triple crown races he did nothing? Hell I recall several top notch horses he had mounts on did absolutely nothing. Before Ron Hansen was found on the rocks below the Golden Gate bridge. Baze was just racking up wins on the fair circuit and low level 5k claimers. I will always have a lack of understanding how this guy made it into the Hall of Fame. Then again, this was the first year you did not have to pick one from each category.

Decent rider yes....great rider....hell freaking no!