NFL Draft...

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Scav

I am getting texts from some ND people and they are ready to hang themselves about Tebow going above Clausen.

I love the new NFL draft

Doesnt suprise me about Tebow going ahead of Clausen. Remember Brady Quinn? He is a product of the offensive scheme that Weiss had at Notre Lame. Quinn couldn't make it as a starting QB for the Browns. Possibly Clausen could be another product of the Weiss offensive scheme at Notre Lame.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Doesnt suprise me about Tebow going ahead of Clausen. Remember Brady Quinn? He is a product of the offensive scheme that Weiss had at Notre Lame. Quinn couldn't make it as a starting QB for the Browns. Possibly Clausen could be another product of the Weiss offensive scheme at Notre Lame.

That may be the case but I don't think its a fair tag for Clausen. He spent most of the last year with an injured foot that had to be surgically repaired and his best receiver was out for half the season. He still managed to play extremely well and came through more than once in pressure situations.

Unlike Quin, he throws the ball downfield and throws it accurately downfield. Quin got most of his production throwing quick passes in 4-5 wide sets.

I hate Notre Dame and I realize that many agree with you as far as Clausen's pro propects go. I think that many are going to be proven wrong and I think that there are a lot of people that will be shaking their heads and wondering why they didn't draft this guy.

They didn't draft him because...

[slotdirt]

Thought the Lions moving up to draft Best was a fantastic move last night. They basically gave up a 7th round pick, and look at their projected offensive skilled position starters going into next year:

Stafford
Calvin Johnson
Nate Burleson
Jahvid Best
Tony Scheffler
Brandon Pettigrew

Plus, with the addition of Suh, Vandenbosch, and Corey Williams on the d-line, this team could be on the improve. Then again, when you only win three of your last 40 games, it's hard to go the other way.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

That may be the case but I don't think its a fair tag for Clausen. He spent most of the last year with an injured foot that had to be surgically repaired and his best receiver was out for half the season. He still managed to play extremely well and came through more than once in pressure situations.

Unlike Quin, he throws the ball downfield and throws it accurately downfield. Quin got most of his production throwing quick passes in 4-5 wide sets.

I hate Notre Dame and I realize that many agree with you as far as Clausen's pro propects go. I think that many are going to be proven wrong and I think that there are a lot of people that will be shaking their heads and wondering why they didn't draft this guy.

Could another reason why Tebow went ahead of Clausen is the fact that Tebow is a proven winner. I know Tebow played on far better teams Clausen did.

[Danzig]

but those two points cancel each other out, don't they? tebow is a winner, but how much of that is due to environment? i'm surprised no one went with clausen.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Could another reason why Tebow went ahead of Clausen is the fact that Tebow is a proven winner. I know Tebow played on far better teams Clausen did.

I really think McDaniel took him solely because of his mentality/attitude. After ditching Cutler and Marshall, it seems like he is trying to weed out the primadonna's/head cases out of Denver. Besides, I get the feeling that McDaniel thinks he is smarter than everyone else in the NFL and wants to prove he can coach Tebow into a star QB.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I really think McDaniel took him solely because of his mentality/attitude. After ditching Cutler and Marshall, it seems like he is trying to weed out the primadonna's/head cases out of Denver. Besides, I get the feeling that McDaniel thinks he is smarter than everyone else in the NFL and wants to prove he can coach Tebow into a star QB.

That about sums it up.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

That about sums it up.

Completely agree....

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I really think McDaniel took him solely because of his mentality/attitude. After ditching Cutler and Marshall, it seems like he is trying to weed out the primadonna's/head cases out of Denver. Besides, I get the feeling that McDaniel thinks he is smarter than everyone else in the NFL and wants to prove he can coach Tebow into a star QB.

This is a fair assessment and I agree ... regardless of his reasons for taking him, I'm glad he did. Perhaps Tim will have the chance to prove himself because of it. Regardless, Tebow will sell some major merchandise for the franchise, so he's not a total waste anyway ...

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

This is a fair assessment and I agree ... regardless of his reasons for taking him, I'm glad he did. Perhaps Tim will have the chance to prove himself because of it. Regardless, Tebow will sell some major merchandise for the franchise, so he's not a total waste anyway ...

Especially since he wears #15..........They will just take all those formerly useless Marshall shirts and put the Tebow name plate on them. Saved the Broncos and NFL a lot of money.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Doesnt suprise me about Tebow going ahead of Clausen. Remember Brady Quinn? He is a product of the offensive scheme that Weiss had at Notre Lame. Quinn couldn't make it as a starting QB for the Browns. Possibly Clausen could be another product of the Weiss offensive scheme at Notre Lame.

I'll laugh my ass of when the Chiefs take Clausen and then he supplants that worthless Cassell, and becomes successful.

I actually hope not, but for this post, I think its appropriate.

[Cannon Shell]

I heard the Jets are going to draft a fork in the 7th round.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I heard the Jets are going to draft a fork in the 7th round.

I don't like what they have done this offseason, I may be the only one. 8-8

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I don't like what they have done this offseason, I may be the only one. 8-8

Yeah, what a bunch of shitheads, getting a top 10 corner and then a Super Bowl MVP for a half a bag of chips, then convincing a first ballot HOF RB to agree to being a backup. The Taylor move is anathema to us fans, but it's low risk high reward. What else? I don't like cutting Faneca, but other than that, all Tannenbaum's done this offseason is rob teams left and right for star players. How can you have a problem with that? Oh, I know, if you're on a high horse about "character" and other meaningless non-football cliches.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, what a bunch of shitheads, getting a top 10 corner and then a Super Bowl MVP for a half a bag of chips, then convincing a first ballot HOF RB to agree to being a backup. The Taylor move is anathema to us fans, but it's low risk high reward. What else? I don't like cutting Faneca, but other than that, all Tannenbaum's done this offseason is rob teams left and right for star players. How can you have a problem with that? Oh, I know, if you're on a high horse about "character" and other meaningless non-football cliches.

The jets didnt screw around thats for sure. I don't like Ladanian in place of Thomas Jones but the rest of the moves are hard to argue with.

How can anyone not love the Santonio Holmes deal? In his prime, signed for one year at pittsburgh money. If he sucks, you let him go. If he is what he has been, you have a topnotch receiver. There is NO RISK and incredibly high reward. This deal alone would be a successful offseason in my book. Throw in the other parts and it is a total slam dunk.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The jets didnt screw around thats for sure. I don't like Ladanian in place of Thomas Jones but the rest of the moves are hard to argue with.

How can anyone not love the Santonio Holmes deal? In his prime, signed for one year at pittsburgh money. If he sucks, you let him go. If he is what he has been, you have a topnotch receiver. There is NO RISK and incredibly high reward. This deal alone would be a successful offseason in my book. Throw in the other parts and it is a total slam dunk.

The Steelers dont regularly just give away great players coming off of their best season.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The jets didnt screw around thats for sure. I don't like Ladanian in place of Thomas Jones but the rest of the moves are hard to argue with.

How can anyone not love the Santonio Holmes deal? In his prime, signed for one year at pittsburgh money. If he sucks, you let him go. If he is what he has been, you have a topnotch receiver. There is NO RISK and incredibly high reward. This deal alone would be a successful offseason in my book. Throw in the other parts and it is a total slam dunk.

They aren't looking for him to be TJ. Shonn Greene is probably going to be the man this year with Tomlinson coming off the bench. That being said, I thought that they should have kept TJ. But I think that they could have done a lot worse than Tomlinson as a backup. I believe he still has a little left in those legs.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

I'll laugh my ass of when the Chiefs take Clausen and then he supplants that worthless Cassell, and becomes successful.

I actually hope not, but for this post, I think its appropriate.

It would be funny if Clausen is reunited with Weiss.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

It would be funny if Clausen is reunited with Weiss.

Very good point. I think the Chiefs grab him in the 2nd round because of this.