Roethlisberger

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by docicu3

At the risk of touching off a political nuclear explosion it should be said nonetheless that there is something wrong about this concept of a second layer of double jeopardy justice fueled and dictated by an employer who sanctions when the police have walked away from prosecution of Ben's behavior never mind enforcement.

Obviously I do not know what Ben has done, with whom and how much of it qualifies as decadent and/or immoral. If I had better access to exactly what went on perhaps I would feel differently but I have a problem when a punishment is levied when our judicial system did not feel that the standard for punishment had been clearly violated enough for even a TRIAL, never mind a finding reached that deems punishment appropriate for discussion.



I actually wish Ben would walk away and retire immediately and let the Steelers and the Commish scramble to explain how this turned into a lifetime vacation from the game and theft from Steeler fans of a pretty decent QB.

Redskins fan, Doc?

[Rudeboyelvis]

In a pathetic attempt to rerail this thread - ESPN reporting that Pittsburgh is shopping Big Ben for a top ten pick

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

In a pathetic attempt to rerail this thread - ESPN reporting that Pittsburgh is shopping Big Ben for a top ten pick

If they are serious about trading Ben for a top ten pick, it would be in essence dumping him. I think its more smoke than anything else but I applaud the Steelers for their stance.

A two time super bowl winning QB that is in his prime and is arguably top five in the game (arguably) for one draft pick?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

If they are serious about trading Ben for a top ten pick, it would be in essence dumping him. I think its more smoke than anything else but I applaud the Steelers for their stance.

A two time super bowl winning QB that is in his prime and is arguably top five in the game (arguably) for one draft pick?

Why trade for a guy who will be out 6 games?

[randallscott35]

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...en-problem/?hp

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Why trade for a guy who will be out 6 games?

Well, it might just be 4 games. That aside, look at what you are getting in terms of talent. Look at his age. Look at his contract.

He will make 8.05 million in 2010. He will make a little over 11 million from 2011-2014 and will make a little over 12 million in 2015. Where are you going to find a two time super bowl winning QB in his twenties and be able to not only get away with a reasonable yearly salary but also not have to pay a giant signing bonus?

Regardless of how much of a creep i think he is, there is no doubt he can play. Taking away Manning, Brady and Brees, Ben is in the conversation with any other QB in the league and you can still build a team around him.

If you are the Bills or Browns, you wouldn't take him over what else is out there?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Well, it might just be 4 games. That aside, look at what you are getting in terms of talent. Look at his age. Look at his contract.

He will make 8.05 million in 2010. He will make a little over 11 million from 2011-2014 and will make a little over 12 million in 2015. Where are you going to find a two time super bowl winning QB in his twenties and be able to not only get away with a reasonable yearly salary but also not have to pay a giant signing bonus?

Regardless of how much of a creep i think he is, there is no doubt he can play. Taking away Manning, Brady and Brees, Ben is in the conversation with any other QB in the league and you can still build a team around him.

If you are the Bills or Browns, you wouldn't take him over what else is out there?

Baggage. No.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Baggage. No.

Well, thats another story. Regardless of how I feel about him, I would take a chance on him if I were a GM in the top ten. He is still young and still has a chance to redeem himself and become a better person.

I think you have a greater risk of Casey Clausen or Sam Bradford ending up being a bum.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Why trade for a guy who will be out 6 games?

You have just brought an excellent point. Im thinking if someone trades for him they will more likely make him a fix to a bad quarterback situation. Im sure there might at least four or five teams who need help at quarterback and might be willing to trade for a quarterback who has proven that he knows how to win games. I am well aware there are a few talented quarterbacks in this years draft. Is a team willing to get an unproven quarterback when there is a proven quarterback available? Again I think its disgraceful what Roethlisberger has done. Im sure some teams are willing to take a chance on him. How many chances did Pacman Jones get?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Why trade for a guy who will be out 6 games?

I can name 6 teams easily, and probably another 10 with some thought... Amazing they wait until 2 days before the draft to announce it - they must have a stake in boosting the draft day ratings

[Rudeboyelvis]

By the way, the Redskins are now officially kicking themselves in the asz.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

By the way, the Redskins are now officially kicking themselves in the asz.

Throwing money around still hasn't bought Daniel Snyder a Super Bowl win let a Conference Championship. At least George Steinbrenner has some World Series wins.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

By the way, the Redskins are now officially kicking themselves in the asz.

Ben would have gotten it worse behind that skins line than he would have in a jailhouse shower.

Still...a mere first round draft pick for roethlisberger? yeah, they are kicking themselves.