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Old 04-11-2010, 10:29 PM
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Phil I appreciate that

Hes the guy that boxes 5 in an exacta and still misses. 7 horse field.

Not to mention with Dublin hes been ran in all the preps, hasn't won any. In fact, hasn't won since he was a juvy! Makes perfect sense to bet him in Derby. 20-1 IMO is a short price on him. He should be 60-1 at post and I still wouldnt use him in anything because hes a hopeless puke
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:42 PM
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You cash more mythical wagers than anybody I have ever seen.

You have more money on horses you hate than any MF I have watched in here. You bashed VJ balls about Stately Victor, yet he wins and pays 80 and you have 10 accross on him. Then you hafta back peddle like Kenny Lofton because you look like a moron of epic proportions

Its too bad you don't bet exactas. I would follow you from track to track. Im sure your money shakes the board
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Old 04-12-2010, 03:51 PM
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where is the ignore button on here?
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:47 PM
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I am pretty shocked that Dublin is still even running, let alone make the Derby.
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:48 PM
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That horse isn't even on a ****** like yours radar without Vol Jack. Thats the point. You put yourself in a position that if the horse loses you jump jack and bash him,if it wins you loved him.
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:49 PM
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Scav he wont win a race of merit as an older horse. I doubt he ever wins another graded stake, and he will never win a graded stake 1000000 percent past 7/8ths. That includes G3
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Scav he wont win a race of merit as an older horse. I doubt he ever wins another graded stake, and he will never win a graded stake 1000000 percent past 7/8ths. That includes G3
Dublin or Super Saver?
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:53 PM
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Dublin

SS would at least get a look
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:55 PM
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Dublin

SS would at least get a look
I don't disagree with you on Dublin, I am shocked that he has held up this long after getting grinded on.

From a TG perspective, SS has a really really good pattern, this last race worries me though, he shoud have rolled Line of David and galloped out fairly strong with that type of trip but looked unfit. I guess the plus side is that he isn't gutted and Derby is third race off the layoff. I am wondering if he has distance limitations, he shouldn't, but who knows.
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:47 PM
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Im not really an exacta player, and If Dublin did not run I would be the first on here. Hes not my main play or whatever I think the chalk will be really tough to beat, but like Ntamm said at or around 20-1 IMO hes worth using.
Seriously though, why Dublin? D. Wayne hasn't won a stakes race with a 3YO in like 8 years. Why not, say, Super Saver- who will be the same price, and has a win over the track, beat Dublin on the square, and a better chance to move up on Derby Day?

And again, while discussing contenders early especially in the Derby is important, don't lock yourself in 3 weeks out. Go back and watch every race. Digest the results and think about what really should happen. Formulate a way how each horse could potentially win. Step back and evaluate the prices at which these horses will be versus the way you decide each could potentially win. Remember the other day when you were supremely confident in Warrior's Reward? You gave a situation how and why he was going to win, at a bonus mutuel. Just because you bet Dublin in the Ark Derby doesn't mean you need to bet him again in the Ky Derby.
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:49 PM
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Seriously though, why Dublin? D. Wayne hasn't won a stakes race with a 3YO in like 8 years. Why not, say, Super Saver- who will be the same price, and has a win over the track, beat Dublin on the square, and a better chance to move up on Derby Day?

And again, while discussing contenders early especially in the Derby is important, don't lock yourself in 3 weeks out. Go back and watch every race. Digest the results and think about what really should happen. Formulate a way how each horse could potentially win. Step back and evaluate the prices at which these horses will be versus the way you decide each could potentially win. Remember the other day when you were supremely confident in Warrior's Reward? You gave a situation how and why he was going to win, at a bonus mutuel. Just because you bet Dublin in the Ark Derby doesn't mean you need to bet him again in the Ky Derby.
Hush on Super Saver, although he should have cruised past that horse on Saturday, and he didn't gallop out that strong.

I am not sure what to think about the race.
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:54 PM
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Hush on Super Saver, although he should have cruised past that horse on Saturday, and he didn't gallop out that strong.

I am not sure what to think about the race.
It was a strong performance from the winner, but a huge jump up. He'll go backwards in the Derby. I haven't watched the gallop out yet although that doesn't mean a whole lot to me usually (unless they look like they're going to fall apart.)

I don't think Super Saver is even good by any means. All I'm offering is a viable alternative to Dublin at roughly the same price to make PG think about his selections more.
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