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Old 11-01-2009, 07:01 PM
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Instead of telling me he's not the best rookie, maybe you could tell me who is and then give me undeniable proof that he is. I'm only giving my opinion on the matter since there's no such thing as a fact but if it's indeed a fact that I'm wrong, please correct me.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:11 PM
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Instead of telling me he's not the best rookie, maybe you could tell me who is and then give me undeniable proof that he is. I'm only giving my opinion on the matter since there's no such thing as a fact but if it's indeed a fact that I'm wrong, please correct me.
So far Harvin is better.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:14 PM
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So far Harvin is better.
As expected. Thanks.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:17 PM
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As expected. Thanks.
you disagree? What would make you think that your guy is better than Harvin has been? It really isnt close considering Harvin is one of the best return men in the league as well. Please explain to me why Nicks is or has been better?
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:20 PM
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you disagree? What would make you think that your guy is better than Harvin has been? It really isnt close considering Harvin is one of the best return men in the league as well. Please explain to me why Nicks is or has been better?
Oh, that's how it works? I give my opinion. You tell me I'm wrong. Then, without explaining your opinion, I'm supposed to explain mine? That's ok. I'll pass. You can have Harvin. I'll take Nicks.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:22 PM
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I'll take Harvin.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:27 PM
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:30 PM
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Oh, that's how it works? I give my opinion. You tell me I'm wrong. Then, without explaining your opinion, I'm supposed to explain mine? That's ok. I'll pass. You can have Harvin. I'll take Nicks.
What exactly did I do to get you in a huff? Harvin has more catches, more yards, more TD's, and fills two positions. I mean it is obvious stuff. And before you start with the Nicks was hurt stuff, Harvin has been playing banged up and sick. So Harvin it appears is more durable than Nicks as well. Enough?
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:34 PM
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And I think Nicks is good and who knows he may be great someday but KG insists that he is the best rookie bar none without much really "proving" it. I'm sure there are some defensive rookies that are doing at least as good as Phil pointed out but dont care enough to look.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:02 PM
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What exactly did I do to get you in a huff? Harvin has more catches, more yards, more TD's, and fills two positions. I mean it is obvious stuff. And before you start with the Nicks was hurt stuff, Harvin has been playing banged up and sick. So Harvin it appears is more durable than Nicks as well. Enough?
Going into this week:
Harvin had 23 catches for 285 yards (12.4 ypc), and two touchdowns. He had played seven games (three starts) and his yards per game is 40.7. His yards after the catch average is 5.6.

Nicks had 16 catches for 315 yards (19.7 ypc), and four touchdowns. He had played five games (one start) and his yards per game is 63.0. His yards after the catch average is 11.1.

Harvin is a dynamic kick returner, one of the best in the league already. That is what brings him into the conversation. Just off of their receiving numbers thus far, it's not even close to me and Harvin is playing with a much better quarterback. Nicks is third in the NFL in yards per catch (Miles Austin 23.7, DeSean Jackson 20.1) and his yards after the catch is second among all receivers (Austin 12.2). You'd take Harvin and that's fine. I won't tell you that you are wrong. I'll take Nicks because I think he is more productive on the field.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:30 AM
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Instead of telling me he's not the best rookie, maybe you could tell me who is and then give me undeniable proof that he is. I'm only giving my opinion on the matter since there's no such thing as a fact but if it's indeed a fact that I'm wrong, please correct me.

Mr. Percy Harvin is the leagues best play maker Rookie. Really cant comment on overall rookie cause I havent followed every single team and ya got guys like Philski pointed out. The proof for Harvin is in the football games. All you have to do is watch.

Also, Maclin > Nicks. Maclin has been playing good football too.. he has GREAT hands and just a good football player. Having Action Jackson and Maclin on the field together is a great thing in my opinion.

Of course the 2nd paragraph is biased though.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:45 PM
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might end up being Crabtree. he is off to good start considering he missed, offseason preseason regular season until last couple games with 11 catches for 137 yards playing with subpar qbs
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Maclin is having a decent rookie year, I have all but forgotten Kevin Curtis.
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