forget Summer Bird for a minute. Who Was Better Dunkirk or Mine That Bird?

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The thing is, we're discussing the trips and the rides go hand-in-hand. We can't discuss the trips if we take out or marginalize the premature move of Borel, you can't rationally analyze the trip.

I also don't really buy into the argument about how Summer Bird made up ground on the worst part of the track. The race that really screamed bias on Saturday was the Acorn but that result, in my opinion, had more to do with GGG getting a clear lead in a race that lacked any good horses. The favorite was a perfect trip winner in each of her graded stakes efforts and was returning from an unnecessarily long and injury-induced layoff.

To sum it up, do I think the best horse at 12 furlongs, a distance beyond the scope of the 2-3 finishers, won the race? Yes.

NT

Though we will never know this, had Calvin waited as he had in the Preakness and Derby, does MTB get up in time? I think his run fizzles and I am sure people would be on here criticizing he was too far back, didn't move him fast enough. Horseracing is just made for revisionists huh? I'm glad you acknowledge SB was the superior horse this time and though you haven't mentioned it, I am pretty sure you had a bet on him because you did recognize he was a live longshot last week.