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[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by moses

To each their own. You don't need to convince me of anything.

I will say though, I live near Philadelphia in New Jersey and there are lots of Cowboys/Yankees/Lakers fans around here. They are generally horrible people to discuss sports with. For many of them, I could probably eliminate the last four words of that sentence.

Overall, I agree with you. Especially Laker fans. But I have been changing over the years. When I grew up, players stayed with teams for the most part so if you were a fan one year, you could expect the same players to be on the team the next year. That's changing so much though. I'm more a fan of individual players now and only a fan of teams by tradition. I am a huge LeBron James fan. It baffles me how many Lakers/Kobe fans hated James so much (because he was a threat to their guy) but love him now. I can't like or not like a guy cause of the team he plays for.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Overall, I agree with you. Especially Laker fans. But I have been changing over the years. When I grew up, players stayed with teams for the most part so if you were a fan one year, you could expect the same players to be on the team the next year. That's changing so much though. I'm more a fan of individual players now and only a fan of teams by tradition. I am a huge LeBron James fan. It baffles me how many Lakers/Kobe fans hated James so much (because he was a threat to their guy) but love him now. I can't like or not like a guy cause of the team he plays for.

I love Lebron. The hate is absurd ( and that's being nice ).

[moses]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Overall, I agree with you. Especially Laker fans. But I have been changing over the years. When I grew up, players stayed with teams for the most part so if you were a fan one year, you could expect the same players to be on the team the next year. That's changing so much though. I'm more a fan of individual players now and only a fan of teams by tradition. I am a huge LeBron James fan. It baffles me how many Lakers/Kobe fans hated James so much (because he was a threat to their guy) but love him now. I can't like or not like a guy cause of the team he plays for.

I don't fully understand all the hate for star players. I try to appreciate the great players that come along. We spend so much time talking about who the best of all-time is and whether it's this guy or that guy. It's generally a waste of time. Just because LeBron is a great player, it doesn't take away from what Kobe or Jordan or anyone else accomplished.

It's probably tougher to follow a team in basketball than any other sport because one player can make such a huge difference and there is the turnover that you mention. There are also so few teams with a legitimate shot to win the title that, as a fan of a team that may not be in contention, you almost have to attach yourself to players that you like to watch. I'm a 76ers fan but there are tons of players that I just enjoy watching play the game. Thankfully, a few of them play for the 76ers these days.