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[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Again you're not understanding me, i dont know, but I DO know how i feel, and i feel like that decision had more to do with than strictly that foul. That's how i and a the majority of people who had or were alive to MS feel.

Regardless of who won, I think they should only take the winner of the Kentucky Derby down if he fouled someone that they think would of won (had the foul not taken place.)

Let them do their pc teaching in other races on a safe track with 5-12 horses.

Not with about 20 horses on rubbery jello (with standing water. )

Then, taking down the best horse in the race for fouling horses that could only run 9f. Now you want safety? 20 horses on rubbery jello isn't safety. So, the hypocrisy is rich.

[Bruinguybry]

Let them do their pc teaching in other races on a safe track with 5-12 horses

Agree with this statement 1000% thats how their trying to spin it today with all that bs "horses could've gone down" blah blah blah. Again if these industry people are so concerned why is the government going to have to do something about santa anita? But what took place yesterday is being spewed about by these people as the worst foul ever. It's double standard bullshit. If that was baffert with all his pull no way im ****ing hell that horse comes down. Not only that, but all these big name trainers and jockeys whining today wouldn't of said **** if that was of bafferts horses. Open season on servis and saez

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Let them do their pc teaching in other races on a safe track with 5-12 horses

Agree with this statement 1000% thats how their trying to spin it today with all that bs "horses could've gone down" blah blah blah. Again if these industry people are so concerned why is the government going to have to do something about santa anita? But what took place yesterday is being spewed about by these people as the worst foul ever. It's double standard bullshit. If that was baffert with all his pull no way im ****ing hell that horse comes down. Not only that, but all these big name trainers and jockeys whining today wouldn't of said **** if that was of bafferts horses. Open season on servis and saez

These people spend millions to buy horses, and for stud fees. Most do it trying to win this race. So, yea, a claiming trainer moving a relatively cheap horse up with "love" is not exactly good for the breeding industry.

[Bruinguybry]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

These people spend millions to buy horses, and for stud fees. Most do it trying to win this race. So, yea, a claiming trainer moving a cheap horse with "love" is not exactly good for the breeding industry.

Yup! But they'll keep towing the company line "the horse moved out five paths could've taken out half the field" it all stinks and wouldn't of happened to the bob bafferts of the world. If it did i csn guarantee to you none of the mark casses of the world would be up on their soapbox acting as if this foul was the worst one they've seen

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Yup! But they'll keep towing the company line "the horse moved out five paths could've taken out half the field" it all stinks and wouldn't of happened to the bob bafferts of the world. If it did i csn guarantee to you none of the mark casses of the world would be up on their soapbox acting as if this foul was the worst one they've seen

Mark Casse didn’t claim foul.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Mark Casse didn’t claim foul.

Why claim foul when your horse came 8th (due to being out of gas?)

Look this is the issue. The horse fouled horses who couldn't get 10f.

If they'd of been close to the winner at the wire, then, o.k.

Putting the winner almost last for fouling 2 horses that didn't have the gas to get 10f .

That's the issue. It's not safety. If you're running almost 20 horses on rubbery jello with standing water, then, claiming safety is pretty rich.

[NoLuvForPletch]

The point of the Bayern comparison is simply that the rules are applied subjectively. And clearly the horse racing world is okay with that. BTW says it himself that gate infractions are rarely if ever adjudicated. But why exactly is that "okay"? If Bayern wipes out 3 horses by drifting in out of the gate and Max wipes out 3 horses by drifting out with a quarter mile left to run in the Kentucky Derby, why couldn't the stews subjectively decide to leave him up in this instance in determining that the 20 couldnt win if they went around again and the 1 was partially responsible for climbing up on the 7 and bulling his way through before the 7 drifted out anyhow? My greatest surprise is simply how strongly those that feel he should have come down are expressing their thoughts while not acknowledging there do remain unanswered questions.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Why claim foul when your horse came 8th (due to being out of gas?)

Look this is the issue. The horse fouled horses who couldn't get 10f.

If they'd of been close to the winner at the wire, then, o.k.

Putting the winner almost last for fouling 2 horses that didn't have the gas to get 10f .

That's the issue. It's not safety. If you're running almost 20 horses on rubbery jello with standing water, then, claiming safety is pretty rich.

They weren’t closer because they were fouled. The winner was placed behind the horse they deemed he fouled.

This isn’t hard guys. Some of you are acting like you’ve never seen a DQ before.

Your not getting 10f stuff is silly since the horse you keyed that you claim can’t get 10f was a winner at 9.5f.

[Dahoss]

The West’s have horses with Baffert, including a Game Winner and Servis won a stake the prior day....but this was political.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Regardless of who won, I think they should only take the winner of the Kentucky Derby down if he fouled someone that they think would of won (had the foul not taken place.)

Let them do their pc teaching in other races on a safe track with 5-12 horses.

Not with about 20 horses on rubbery jello (with standing water. )

Then, taking down the best horse in the race for fouling horses that could only run 9f. Now you want safety? 20 horses on rubbery jello isn't safety. So, the hypocrisy is rich.

That's not how this works.

And spare me the complaining about pc bullshit. The rules are black and white, and must be enforced. Even in the biggest race in the world.