Done till Spa. F horse racing

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Dont know dont care. Im sure there a little skeptical of his 35-40% win rates that might of had some implications on their decision. Again, to the novice betting public this will be what is said and thought for years to come. I personally beleive there were some politics involved and will always believe if that was baffert the horse stays up. You cant convince me and huge chunk of people otherwise

So the Kentucky stewards are skeptical of Servis’s numbers? How many horses does he run in Kentucky per year? 10 maybe? That’s why they DQd him?

[Bruinguybry]

Again you're not understanding me, i dont know, but I DO know how i feel, and i feel like that decision had more to do with than strictly that foul. That's how i and a the majority of people who had or were alive to MS feel.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Where are your pre race opinions posted?

Under Serling's video (on youtube.)

This all you got?

Just distracting.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Again you're not understanding me, i dont know, but I DO know how i feel, and i feel like that decision had more to do with than strictly that foul. That's how i and a the majority of people who had or were alive to MS feel.

Regardless of who won, I think they should only take the winner of the Kentucky Derby down if he fouled someone that they think would of won (had the foul not taken place.)

Let them do their pc teaching in other races on a safe track with 5-12 horses.

Not with about 20 horses on rubbery jello (with standing water. )

Then, taking down the best horse in the race for fouling horses that could only run 9f. Now you want safety? 20 horses on rubbery jello isn't safety. So, the hypocrisy is rich.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Again you're not understanding me, i dont know, but I DO know how i feel, and i feel like that decision had more to do with than strictly that foul. That's how i and a the majority of people who had or were alive to MS feel.

Most of the people on here backing this dq are people who threw Max out, because they thought he'd quit (if he had to run hard up front. ) So, they want this bail out to feel better. That is what's going on, and it's a lot of people.

[Bruinguybry]

Let them do their pc teaching in other races on a safe track with 5-12 horses

Agree with this statement 1000% thats how their trying to spin it today with all that bs "horses could've gone down" blah blah blah. Again if these industry people are so concerned why is the government going to have to do something about santa anita? But what took place yesterday is being spewed about by these people as the worst foul ever. It's double standard bullshit. If that was baffert with all his pull no way im ****ing hell that horse comes down. Not only that, but all these big name trainers and jockeys whining today wouldn't of said **** if that was of bafferts horses. Open season on servis and saez

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Again you're not understanding me, i dont know, but I DO know how i feel, and i feel like that decision had more to do with than strictly that foul. That's how i and a the majority of people who had or were alive to MS feel.

You speak for the majority of people who were impacted by the DQ?

[Bruinguybry]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Most of the people on here backing this dq are people who threw Max out, because they thought he'd quit (if he had to run hard up front. ) So, they want this bail out to feel better. That is what's going on, and it's a lot of people.

Yeah exactly! The horse ran in a 16k mcl no way he's winning the Kentucky derby, that's what they were saying leading up to this. Mott hoisting the trophy looks a lot better than a suspected doper i knew mott was gonna get his way the he was crying.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Regardless of who won, I think they should only take the winner of the Kentucky Derby down if he fouled someone that they think would of won (had the foul not taken place.)

Let them do their pc teaching in other races on a safe track with 5-12 horses.

Not with about 20 horses on rubbery jello (with standing water. )

Then, taking down the best horse in the race for fouling horses that could only run 9f. Now you want safety? 20 horses on rubbery jello isn't safety. So, the hypocrisy is rich.

That's not how this works.

And spare me the complaining about pc bullshit. The rules are black and white, and must be enforced. Even in the biggest race in the world.

[Bruinguybry]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You speak for the majority of people who were impacted by the DQ?

No. But that's what the majority beleive hate to break it to you.

[Dahoss]

It’s like a contest to see who can say the dumbest sh.it. Just when I think no one will top Bruinguybry, Scuds comes back with something dumber.

Very impressive actually.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

No. But that's what the majority beleive hate to break it to you.

Based on what?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Under Serling's video (on youtube.)

This all you got?

Just distracting.

You’re the one fixated on Serling who to my knowledge hasn’t even posted in the thread.

Serling, Giacomo and a bunch of other nonsense all to mask your bad opinions.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Let them do their pc teaching in other races on a safe track with 5-12 horses

Agree with this statement 1000% thats how their trying to spin it today with all that bs "horses could've gone down" blah blah blah. Again if these industry people are so concerned why is the government going to have to do something about santa anita? But what took place yesterday is being spewed about by these people as the worst foul ever. It's double standard bullshit. If that was baffert with all his pull no way im ****ing hell that horse comes down. Not only that, but all these big name trainers and jockeys whining today wouldn't of said **** if that was of bafferts horses. Open season on servis and saez

These people spend millions to buy horses, and for stud fees. Most do it trying to win this race. So, yea, a claiming trainer moving a relatively cheap horse up with "love" is not exactly good for the breeding industry.

[Bruinguybry]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

These people spend millions to buy horses, and for stud fees. Most do it trying to win this race. So, yea, a claiming trainer moving a cheap horse with "love" is not exactly good for the breeding industry.

Yup! But they'll keep towing the company line "the horse moved out five paths could've taken out half the field" it all stinks and wouldn't of happened to the bob bafferts of the world. If it did i csn guarantee to you none of the mark casses of the world would be up on their soapbox acting as if this foul was the worst one they've seen

[Dahoss]

The West’s have horses with Baffert, including a Game Winner and Servis won a stake the prior day....but this was political.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Yup! But they'll keep towing the company line "the horse moved out five paths could've taken out half the field" it all stinks and wouldn't of happened to the bob bafferts of the world. If it did i csn guarantee to you none of the mark casses of the world would be up on their soapbox acting as if this foul was the worst one they've seen

Mark Casse didn’t claim foul.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You’re the one fixated on Serling who to my knowledge hasn’t even posted in the thread.

Serling, Giacomo and a bunch of other nonsense all to mask your bad opinions.

Well, you and myself were like 2 of the 5 people on here that liked Giacomo. The rest made it seem like scum that stole candy from 7-11. Most on here complain about having Giacomo on the list of Kentucky Derby Winners. Now, they got a horse on the list that was the 1st loser in a Kentucky Derby.

Look. You got your way. This pig got moved up. You won. Be happy. Not everyone is gunna agree with you. Not everyone likes it when the best horse is put almost last. Sort of makes the money, time, and effort put into it a bit of a waste (even if the result didn't impact their wallet, personally.) It's a lack of respect for the effort put in by handicappers, and everything put in by the connections of the winner.

[blackthroatedwind]

This thread is on FIRE!

One idiot has me "towing the company line" for companies I don't even work for, and DT's biggest idiot returns from, apparently, cruising youtube to remind us of his horrible opinions. Plus, we have a Bayern comparison...you know, a horse who over five years wasn't disqualified over a gate foul, which are never adjudicated.

Every disqualification isn't the end of the world. Frankly, everyone who has played this game even remotely seriously for over a decade has suffered through a FAR worse call ( and also probably benefitted from one as well ). It's a great discussion but the histrionics are beyond over the top.

It's a great game. It's also an imperfect one. The bubble inside the bubble all too often lacks perspective.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well, you and myself were like 2 of the 5 people on here that liked Giacomo. The rest made it seem like scum that stole candy from 7-11. Most on here complain about having Giacomo on the list of Kentucky Derby Winners. Now, they got a horse on the list that was the 1st loser in a Kentucky Derby.

Look. You got your way. This pig got moved up. You won. Be happy. Not everyone is gunna agree with you. Not everyone likes it when the best horse is put almost last. Sort of makes the money, time, and effort put into it a bit of a waste (even if the result didn't impact their wallet, personally.) It's a lack of respect for the effort put in by handicappers, and everything put in by the connections of the winner.

Dude....I didn’t get my way at all. I was live to the 1,5,13 and 16 for a score. Even though I needed War of Will and everyone agrees he was impacted I don’t think he was winning. I didn’t win.

But the hysterics over a pretty clear cut DQ are ridiculous. I feel bad for anyone that was taken down and I hate being DQd. But I understand it’s part of the activity I choose to engage in. Suck it up or choose to not bet anymore but it was the right call.