Done till Spa. F horse racing

Bruinguybry · #1 05-05-2019, 05:47 PM

Its happened both ways for me im not a novice player. I really enjoyed horseracing this just felt very political to me with bill mott sittng there dictating the outcome and those stewards staring at the screen watching him chirping about it. I knew the horse was coming down when they showed him. It pisses me off all these industry people acting like horseracing is on some petestal and they had to do the right thing to honor this game. My point is a game that's trying to get new fans (which they'll never get lets be honest) is acting as if this was the biggest foul in history. As they send horses over the santa anita strip to their death. but a horse comimg out a few paths on a complete **** surface was going to take half the field out that's what their implying. Again if it was that egrigous why didnt gafflione call foul? Btw he looked like he was riding right up MS ass

Dahoss · #2 05-05-2019, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Its happened both ways for me im not a novice player. I really enjoyed horseracing this just felt very political to me with bill mott sittng there dictating the outcome and those stewards staring at the screen watching him chirping about it. I knew the horse was coming down when they showed him. It pisses me off all these industry people acting like horseracing is on some petestal and they had to do the right thing to honor this game. My point is a game that's trying to get new fans (which they'll never get lets be honest) is acting as if this was the biggest foul in history. As they send horses over the santa anita strip to their death. but a horse comimg out a few paths on a complete **** surface was going to take half the field out that's what their implying. Again if it was that egrigous why didnt gafflione call foul? Btw he looked like he was riding right up MS ass

If it’s political could you explain why Kentucky stewards don’t like Jason Servis?

Bruinguybry · #3 05-05-2019, 06:04 PM

Dont know dont care. Im sure there a little skeptical of his 35-40% win rates that might of had some implications on their decision. Again, to the novice betting public this will be what is said and thought for years to come. I personally beleive there were some politics involved and will always believe if that was baffert the horse stays up. You cant convince me and huge chunk of people otherwise

moses · #4 05-05-2019, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Dont know dont care. Im sure there a little skeptical of his 35-40% win rates that might of had some implications on their decision. Again, to the novice betting public this will be what is said and thought for years to come. I personally beleive there were some politics involved and will always believe if that was baffert the horse stays up. You cant convince me and huge chunk of people otherwise

I think you’re right that if Baffert trained Maximum Security that he probably would have legitimately won.

Dahoss · #5 05-05-2019, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Dont know dont care. Im sure there a little skeptical of his 35-40% win rates that might of had some implications on their decision. Again, to the novice betting public this will be what is said and thought for years to come. I personally beleive there were some politics involved and will always believe if that was baffert the horse stays up. You cant convince me and huge chunk of people otherwise

So the Kentucky stewards are skeptical of Servis’s numbers? How many horses does he run in Kentucky per year? 10 maybe? That’s why they DQd him?

Bruinguybry · #6 05-05-2019, 06:39 PM

Again you're not understanding me, i dont know, but I DO know how i feel, and i feel like that decision had more to do with than strictly that foul. That's how i and a the majority of people who had or were alive to MS feel.

SCUDSBROTHER · #7 05-05-2019, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Again you're not understanding me, i dont know, but I DO know how i feel, and i feel like that decision had more to do with than strictly that foul. That's how i and a the majority of people who had or were alive to MS feel.

Regardless of who won, I think they should only take the winner of the Kentucky Derby down if he fouled someone that they think would of won (had the foul not taken place.)

Let them do their pc teaching in other races on a safe track with 5-12 horses.

Not with about 20 horses on rubbery jello (with standing water. )

Then, taking down the best horse in the race for fouling horses that could only run 9f. Now you want safety? 20 horses on rubbery jello isn't safety. So, the hypocrisy is rich.

Bruinguybry · #8 05-05-2019, 06:57 PM

Let them do their pc teaching in other races on a safe track with 5-12 horses

Agree with this statement 1000% thats how their trying to spin it today with all that bs "horses could've gone down" blah blah blah. Again if these industry people are so concerned why is the government going to have to do something about santa anita? But what took place yesterday is being spewed about by these people as the worst foul ever. It's double standard bullshit. If that was baffert with all his pull no way im ****ing hell that horse comes down. Not only that, but all these big name trainers and jockeys whining today wouldn't of said **** if that was of bafferts horses. Open season on servis and saez

philcski · #9 05-05-2019, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Regardless of who won, I think they should only take the winner of the Kentucky Derby down if he fouled someone that they think would of won (had the foul not taken place.)

Let them do their pc teaching in other races on a safe track with 5-12 horses.

Not with about 20 horses on rubbery jello (with standing water. )

Then, taking down the best horse in the race for fouling horses that could only run 9f. Now you want safety? 20 horses on rubbery jello isn't safety. So, the hypocrisy is rich.

That's not how this works.

And spare me the complaining about pc bullshit. The rules are black and white, and must be enforced. Even in the biggest race in the world.

SCUDSBROTHER · #10 05-05-2019, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Again you're not understanding me, i dont know, but I DO know how i feel, and i feel like that decision had more to do with than strictly that foul. That's how i and a the majority of people who had or were alive to MS feel.

Most of the people on here backing this dq are people who threw Max out, because they thought he'd quit (if he had to run hard up front. ) So, they want this bail out to feel better. That is what's going on, and it's a lot of people.

Bruinguybry · #11 05-05-2019, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Most of the people on here backing this dq are people who threw Max out, because they thought he'd quit (if he had to run hard up front. ) So, they want this bail out to feel better. That is what's going on, and it's a lot of people.

Yeah exactly! The horse ran in a 16k mcl no way he's winning the Kentucky derby, that's what they were saying leading up to this. Mott hoisting the trophy looks a lot better than a suspected doper i knew mott was gonna get his way the he was crying.

Dahoss · #12 05-05-2019, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Again you're not understanding me, i dont know, but I DO know how i feel, and i feel like that decision had more to do with than strictly that foul. That's how i and a the majority of people who had or were alive to MS feel.

You speak for the majority of people who were impacted by the DQ?

Bruinguybry · #13 05-05-2019, 07:02 PM

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You speak for the majority of people who were impacted by the DQ?

No. But that's what the majority beleive hate to break it to you.

Dahoss · #14 05-05-2019, 07:03 PM

It’s like a contest to see who can say the dumbest sh.it. Just when I think no one will top Bruinguybry, Scuds comes back with something dumber.

Very impressive actually.

blackthroatedwind · #15 05-05-2019, 07:27 PM

This thread is on FIRE!

One idiot has me "towing the company line" for companies I don't even work for, and DT's biggest idiot returns from, apparently, cruising youtube to remind us of his horrible opinions. Plus, we have a Bayern comparison...you know, a horse who over five years wasn't disqualified over a gate foul, which are never adjudicated.

Every disqualification isn't the end of the world. Frankly, everyone who has played this game even remotely seriously for over a decade has suffered through a FAR worse call ( and also probably benefitted from one as well ). It's a great discussion but the histrionics are beyond over the top.

It's a great game. It's also an imperfect one. The bubble inside the bubble all too often lacks perspective.

cakes44 · #16 05-05-2019, 07:31 PM

I never cruise YouTube.

Alabama Stakes · #17 05-05-2019, 07:39 PM

I never cruise you tube.

NoLuvForPletch · #18 05-05-2019, 06:08 PM

Can anyone determine how many paths Bayern crossed out of the gate and how many horses he impeded on the way to his Classic victory? Seems like a good. comparison, no?

Also, throughout all of this I haven't seen anywhere where Johnny V explained why he didn't claim foul. I would have to assume someone asked him with all of the top notch press we have out there. Anyone find anything?