Clearly there was no intention to come over?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Kitan

So, irrespective of this one race, you think he is a clean rider? Also, pretty sure that you are the only person in this thread to call anyone a murderer or criminal.

I think he rides aggressively like every other successful jockey in New York. I don't think there's any evidence to suggest he's a dirty rider or is putting anyone in an abnormal amount of danger.

But that's beside the point. The ease at which people throw around accusations that jockeys are, at best, indifferent to potentially causing major injuries/deaths is just gross. If you think Irad is out there intentionally putting people in danger, that's on you to prove it, not me to disprove it. That's a very serious allegation and one that's much easier to make from behind a keyboard rather than on the back of a horse.

[Kitan]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I think he rides aggressively like every other successful jockey in New York. I don't think there's any evidence to suggest he's a dirty rider or is putting anyone in an abnormal amount of danger.

But that's beside the point. The ease at which people throw around accusations that jockeys are, at best, indifferent to potentially causing major injuries/deaths is just gross. If you think Irad is out there intentionally putting people in danger, that's on you to prove it, not me to disprove it. That's a very serious allegation and one that's much easier to make from behind a keyboard rather than on the back of a horse.

I don't think anyone here has said that. At least what I am trying to say is that his over aggressiveness, which has been built up in part by the stewards' softness towards him, increase the chances of a serious incident at some point. The next time he is stuck in traffic and decides to bull his way through...it takes a single bad step for catastrophe to occur. Do I think his aggressiveness is used in a manner to deliberately hurt another jockey? Absolutely f****** not, and please don't continue to put those words in my mouth because I have never said that.

[10 pnt move up]

Then Bafferts comments about Nero....he jumped off that question so fast. lmao.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Then Bafferts comments about Nero....he jumped off that question so fast. lmao.

As little as he said, was pretty clear what his thoughts were.

[cakes44]

Truly embarrassing ride by Garcia.

[taxicab]

Giving Nero some extra credit,when he felt/heard/saw Beautiful Shot coming at him on the inside he got to running again.......he's a nice Colt.
On the head on you can see Nero kind of looking at the grandstand(I think it was the grandstand that caught his interest),I would imagine that might of had something to do with his off/on run.
Perhaps if Garcia would of kept his mind on business,he wouldn't of got to looking around.......not sure.
Garcia doesn't make many mistakes as a rule of thumb,I'll be curious if he keeps the Nero mount........I think he will.
And how about the winner ?
Beautiful Shot was as absolutely as green as a snake,he had no clue what the heck he was doing.........and still got the win.
The pan shows some of went on with Beautiful Shot,but the head on is something to behold...........Beautiful Shot is loaded with talent.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by taxicab

Giving Nero some extra credit,when he felt/heard/saw Beautiful Shot coming at him on the inside he got to running again.......he's a nice Colt.
On the head on you can see Nero kind of looking at the grandstand(I think it was the grandstand that caught his interest),I would imagine that might of had something to do with his off/on run.
Perhaps if Garcia would of kept his mind on business,he wouldn't of got to looking around.......not sure.
Garcia doesn't make many mistakes as a rule of thumb,I'll be curious if he keeps the Nero mount........I think he will.
And how about the winner ?
Beautiful Shot was as absolutely as green as a snake,he had no clue what the heck he was doing.........and still got the win.
The pan shows some of went on with Beautiful Shot,but the head on is something to behold...........Beautiful Shot is loaded with talent.

Highly unlikely he ever gets near that horse. The horse straight up lost because of him.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by taxicab

Giving Nero some extra credit,when he felt/heard/saw Beautiful Shot coming at him on the inside he got to running again.......he's a nice Colt.
On the head on you can see Nero kind of looking at the grandstand(I think it was the grandstand that caught his interest),I would imagine that might of had something to do with his off/on run.
Perhaps if Garcia would of kept his mind on business,he wouldn't of got to looking around.......not sure.
Garcia doesn't make many mistakes as a rule of thumb,I'll be curious if he keeps the Nero mount........I think he will.
And how about the winner ?
Beautiful Shot was as absolutely as green as a snake,he had no clue what the heck he was doing.........and still got the win.
The pan shows some of went on with Beautiful Shot,but the head on is something to behold...........Beautiful Shot is loaded with talent.

Seems like the chart caller had different thoughts: DRF NERO dueled inside, inched away on the turn, kicked clear, came a bit off the rail in the stretch, remained clear understeady
handling in deep stretch then vigorous handling late but could not hold off the winner