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Old 07-20-2016, 08:19 AM
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As the wave of mass incarceration begins to recede, the Mississippi controversy has local and state officials talking openly about how harmful locking up fewer people up will be for the economy, confirming the suspicions of those who have argued that mass incarceration is not merely a strategy directed at crime prevention. “Under the administrations of Reagan and Clinton, incarceration, a social tool used for punishment, also became a major job creator,”
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As the wave of mass incarceration begins to recede, the Mississippi controversy has local and state officials talking openly about how harmful locking up fewer people up will be for the economy, confirming the suspicions of those who have argued that mass incarceration is not merely a strategy directed at crime prevention. “Under the administrations of Reagan and Clinton, incarceration, a social tool used for punishment, also became a major job creator,”
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:00 AM
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http://billmoyers.com/segment/bill-m...for-democracy/
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:46 AM
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It is astounding to me that anyone that believes this (and mark me down as an absolute YES as well) would not be thrilled to support a candidate whose sole purpose of leaving a successful and lavish lifestyle is to come to Washington to fix it.

He has single-handedly changed the Republican party platform. Never gave an inch when it comes to positions on trade deals (which both sides are in bed together on), illegal immigration, replacing ACA with something that actually works, etc - EVERY POSITION that the right kicks and screams about, had their chances to vote down, and yet happily went along with because it maintains the status quo and by extension protect the money that owns them. Leading by example, never bending on principles, and displaying the kind of leadership so desperately needed in Washington, HE is bringing THEM to his positions - not the other way around.

What insurance lobby, Big Pharma/AG/Oil lobby, and Banking institutions funded his primary bid? None. He owes no one - which is precisely how you fix Washington - from the outside with zero influence peddling.
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:52 AM
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worth listening to more than once...
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Old 07-20-2016, 11:16 AM
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We have got to get together and show the money men they need us too. We need to get all this damn money out of politics. Because a lot of us dont have money, and thus cannot buy a say.
How?
What if everyone stayed home from work a few days...a big national strike. Shut the emmer effer down? Would that do anything?
How do we get changes made? Any ideas?
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Old 07-20-2016, 11:32 AM
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Here is a timeline i found in a google search, when i asked money in politics.

https://www.timetoast.com/timelines/...ey-in-politics

Candidates eschew public funding these days because it limits them so much financially.
And like they showed when pols have to fundraise. Easier to get a bunch of money fast if you just call the top couple donors. Takes a lot more work to call all the little folks. But then those rich ones, well they want aomething in return.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2718165
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http://billmoyers.com/2014/11/21/8-w...oney-politics/

Ways to help get money out of politics.
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Ways to help get money out of politics.
Unfortunately those that would implement this are the ones benefitting from it staying the same. Same as hiring the fox to guard the hen house and then asking them to implement changes since your hens are disappearing.
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