Simple question

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Sure.

You post polls, i post stats and studies. I am sorry if you cannot read and understand those.. Keep living in your fantasy world tho. It sounds lovely there
And you cant guarantee a thing, not knowing my business.

You post studies that prove nothing. You're the one who does not understand the studies. If a group is committing a disproportionate percentage of crime, that group will obviously make up a disproportionate percentage of the people in prison. In no way, do incarceration rates prove any type of racism or prejudice.

If one group is sentenced to longer prison terms than other groups for the same crime, I agree with you that this would be evidence of discrimination. Does this happen? From most of the evidence I have seen, I would say that this probably does happen. It is one of the only areas where people of color may actually be discriminated against. Is this a good thing? No, it's certainly not a good thing. A person's jail sentence should obviously be solely based on the crime, not on the perpetrator's race, religion, or gender.

As I said in a previous post, I am 3/4 Jewish by blood. If a Jewish friend of mine showed me a stat that Jewish white-collar criminals get slightly longer prison terms than non-Jewish white-collar criminals, do you know what my response would be? My response would be, "Don't commit any crimes and you won't have to worry about."

Life isn't always totally fair. Are you aware that studies show that men get much longer prison terms than women who commit the same crime? Is that fair? Probably not. But do I really care? No, not all. If my biggest problem in life is that I may get a slightly longer jail term than a woman, I wouldn't consider that a major problem. I'm not planning on holding any marches over the issue. I'm not planning on starting a group called, "Men's Lives Matter".

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You post studies that prove nothing. You're the one who does not understand the studies. If a group is committing a disproportionate percentage of crime, that group will obviously make up a disproportionate percentage of the people in prison. In no way, do incarceration rates prove any type of racism or prejudice.

If one group is sentenced to longer prison terms than other groups for the same crime, I agree with you that this would be evidence of discrimination. Does this happen? From most of the evidence I have seen, I would say that this probably does happen. It is one of the only areas where people of color may actually be discriminated against. Is this a good thing? No, it's certainly not a good thing. A person's jail sentence should obviously be solely based on the crime, not on the perpetrator's race, religion, or gender.

As I said in a previous post, I am 3/4 Jewish by blood. If a Jewish friend of mine showed me a stat that Jewish white-collar criminals get slightly longer prison terms than non-Jewish white-collar criminals, do you know what my response would be? My response would be, "Don't commit any crimes and you won't have to worry about."

Life isn't always totally fair. Are you aware that studies show that men get much longer prison terms than women who commit the same crime? Is that fair? Probably not. But do I really care? No, not all. If my biggest problem in life is that I may get a slightly longer jail term than a woman, I wouldn't consider that a major problem. I'm not planning on holding any marches over the issue. I'm not planning on starting a group called, "Men's Lives Matter".

You both post studies that prove nothing because I can find a study to support any position anyone can ever imagine on the Internet. This includes The Holocaust not happening, 911 being an inside job, Moon Landing was a hoax, etc. etc. etc. So in summary her "study" is no more no less useless as yours.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

You both post studies that prove nothing because I can find a study to support any position anyone can ever imagine on the Internet. This includes The Holocaust not happening, 911 being an inside job, Moon Landing was a hoax, etc. etc. etc. So in summary her "study" is no more no less useless as yours.

that's true.

[jms62]

Follow the money

http://www.businessinsider.com/priso...-states-2016-7

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by jms62

Follow the money

http://www.businessinsider.com/priso...-states-2016-7

and IF you could follow it further, you will find some pol or pols that are benefiting from the direction of that spending, money doesn't move unless one or several of these c#$%suckers benefit from it.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by casp0555

and IF you could follow it further, you will find some pol or pols that are benefiting from the direction of that spending, money doesn't move unless one or several of these c#$%suckers benefit from it.

And judges, Prosecutors, Police chiefs and the poster boy Rudy Giulani who by the way seems to have lost his fastball. I wonder how many times this thought goes through someones head. "You mean if we lock someone up we get more money and our stock price goes up?"

[Danzig]

This is from a few months ago:


County officials across Mississippi are warning of job losses and deep deficits as local jails are being deprived of the state inmates needed to keep them afloat. The culprit, say local officials, is state government and private prisons, which are looking to boost their own revenue as sentencing and drug-policy reforms are sending fewer bodies into the correctional system.

“If they do not send us our inmates back, we can’t make it,” said one county supervisor.

The state guaranteed that the local jails would never be less than 80 percent occupied, and the locals would get a 3 percent boost in compensation each year.

I find the last paragraph quite telling. Only one way to stick to that guarantee.