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Old 11-25-2015, 09:16 AM
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I'm not quite sure whether this is intended to support or refute your earlier comment, jms, as, according to the article, the majority of the individuals listed were Bosnian (that crisis having been 20 years ago) which would make them a different time and a different set of refugees. What I took from the article is that radicals have gotten into the nation before, and the government does a pretty good job at catching them here, seeing as how white supremacists have killed more people in terrorist attacks here since 2002 than Islamic terrorists have.

I also knew a Bosnian refugee- he fled here with his family and I knew him when we moved into our previous apartment, as he was the super of the building. He and his wife had some pretty terrifying stories about the war/genocide, including having to flee their home as it was bombed to pieces around them.

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Old 11-25-2015, 09:47 AM
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"Most people in Molenbeek are decent people who want the best for their families. But we should not close our eyes to the fact that it is also home to a very deep, and very dangerous, undercurrent of radical Islamism."

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Old 11-25-2015, 02:21 PM
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Old 11-25-2015, 03:20 PM
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I'm not quite sure whether this is intended to support or refute your earlier comment, jms, as, according to the article, the majority of the individuals listed were Bosnian (that crisis having been 20 years ago) which would make them a different time and a different set of refugees. What I took from the article is that radicals have gotten into the nation before, and the government does a pretty good job at catching them here, seeing as how white supremacists have killed more people in terrorist attacks here since 2002 than Islamic terrorists have.

I also knew a Bosnian refugee- he fled here with his family and I knew him when we moved into our previous apartment, as he was the super of the building. He and his wife had some pretty terrifying stories about the war/genocide, including having to flee their home as it was bombed to pieces around them.

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I guess you read what you want.

So what you are saying is that 20 years later accepting refugees from countries openly hostile to the our country that have proven to be infiltrated is safer than accepting them from Bosnia 20 years back.

So when one of these commits a henious act of terrorism will you come here and say you were wrong or will you blame those tasked with ferreting out the proverbial needle in a haystack.
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Old 11-25-2015, 03:35 PM
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I guess you read what you want.

So what you are saying is that 20 years later accepting refugees from countries openly hostile to the our country that have proven to be infiltrated is safer than accepting them from Bosnia 20 years back.

So when one of these commits a henious act of terrorism will you come here and say you were wrong or will you blame those tasked with ferreting out the proverbial needle in a haystack.
I wish we would look inward at these henious acts of terrorism with the same venom some have at grouping all immigrants into bomb carrying zeoulots. Oh..look...another college shooting, theater massacre, grade school bloodbath carried out, by,..GASP....Americans...oh...that really sucks..weep, pray, move on....but...STOP the f'n Syrian kids fleeing, track the Muslims, lock the boarders. What a dumb ass country we are
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Old 11-25-2015, 03:43 PM
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I wish we would look inward at these henious acts of terrorism with the same venom some have at grouping all immigrants into bomb carrying zeoulots. Oh..look...another college shooting, theater massacre, grade school bloodbath carried out, by,..GASP....Americans...oh...that really sucks..weep, pray, move on....but...STOP the f'n Syrian kids fleeing, track the Muslims, lock the boarders. What a dumb ass country we are
So Americans have committed these henious acts so the answer is to invite in refugees who have already proven to be infiltrated. I will agree with your final point though we are a country full of ****ing morons.
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Old 11-25-2015, 03:58 PM
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So Americans have committed these henious acts so the answer is to invite in refugees who have already proven to be infiltrated. I will agree with your final point though we are a country full of ****ing morons.
Jim, my point is for us to put the same passion and, yes, paranoia into looking inward as we do at looking at easy to label groups with the same, or less threat levels that already exist amongst us.
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Jim, my point is for us to put the same passion and, yes, paranoia into looking inward as we do at looking at easy to label groups with the same, or less threat levels that already exist amongst us.
It truly boggles my mind that the same people who say 'meh' at mass shootings here are almost hysterical when they are confronted with something like the refugee issue.
Refugees that are put thru an incredibly rigorous, detailed and lengthy process.
Unlike a background check for instance.
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Old 11-25-2015, 04:26 PM
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It truly boggles my mind that the same people who say 'meh' at mass shootings here are almost hysterical when they are confronted with something like the refugee issue.
Refugees that are put thru an incredibly rigorous, detailed and lengthy process.
Unlike a background check for instance.
Refugee

"person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster."

How exactly does one put someone from above through a Lengthy Rigorous process? Seems to me the above doesnt fit into a timeframe for a lengthy process. And I am sure this rigorus process will catch those who go through great lengths to recreate their background in order to beat that rigorus process.

And while you are at it quit flogging yourself because what some ****ing anti semetic ******* did 75 years ago. It was unjustified and wrong. But to knowingly let in a group we know has been infiltrated to somehow undo that wrong is insane.

I am all for helping out. Create a safe zone in the middle east and use American forces to keep it that way. As a matter of fact create that safe zone in Saudi Arabia. It is about time they step up and help their fellow Muslims and not use us to do their bidding.
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