Paris wtf

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by jms62

Did those collaborators get in while the war was still in progress? Clear out a space in Syria for the Refugees and provide protection. Allow them in and they certainly be infiltrated. But we know that when on of those with terror on their mind creates a horrific act those supporting allowing them in will either disappear from the debate or blame someone else for not keeping us safe.

No, the US gov't brought them in, whitewashed their backgrounds and sent them to work for NASA:

http://www.businessinsider.com/nazi-...program-2014-2

My stepmom can tell you stories about refugee camps (she and my brothers spent a year in one before being cleared to go to the US). They are NOT safe places. Especially for young women. And, from my stepmom's stories, the danger wasn't from the other refugees; it was from the men hired to (supposedly) protect the refugees.

[GenuineRisk]

The French are still committed to taking in refugees:

http://gawker.com/france-would-still...ess-1743284749

As the comments section said, "Ah, the French. Making us look even more like the backwards rubes we often are with that effortless grace and élan.... I blame the metric system."

(blah blah the French are racist too, yes, I know, I've been there. But this is how you give a middle finger to terrorism, not the cowering that the Governor of the great Welfare State of Alabama is doing)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

The French are still committed to taking in refugees:

http://gawker.com/france-would-still...ess-1743284749

As the comments section said, "Ah, the French. Making us look even more like the backwards rubes we often are with that effortless grace and élan.... I blame the metric system."

(blah blah the French are racist too, yes, I know, I've been there. But this is how you give a middle finger to terrorism, not the cowering that the Governor of the great Welfare State of Alabama is doing)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

No, the US gov't brought them in, whitewashed their backgrounds and sent them to work for NASA:

http://www.businessinsider.com/nazi-...program-2014-2

My stepmom can tell you stories about refugee camps (she and my brothers spent a year in one before being cleared to go to the US). They are NOT safe places. Especially for young women. And, from my stepmom's stories, the danger wasn't from the other refugees; it was from the men hired to (supposedly) protect the refugees.

thanks for posting, both the link and your brief story about the camp.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

thanks for posting, both the link and your brief story about the camp.

My stepmom doesn't talk much about those years (although she talks more about it now than she did 30 years ago when I first knew her), and when she does I can see why she's reluctant to- the stories are really upsetting. We don't push; we let her talk about it as much or little as she wants. My stepbrothers have never talked about it.

I can't fathom the kind of misery and fear that makes someone desperate enough to just pack up and start walking, with no idea what'll be at the other end.

[GenuineRisk]

The other thing is that most of the suspected attackers weren't refugees; they were Europeans who traveled to Syria and then came back:

http://jezebel.com/most-of-the-suspe...nat-1743507304

And, of course, the majority of the 9/11 hijackers were citizens of our ally, Saudi Arabia. They weren't refugees. All but one were here on tourist or business visas (1 on a student visa).

I don't see any GOP candidates or governors suggesting we not allow people in on tourist or business visas, despite the fact that, when one uses facts and not fear-mongering, that's where the danger has historically been, not in refugees.

For that matter, since 2002, white supremacists have killed more people in terrorist attacks in the USA than Muslim radicals. But none of the candidates or governors are talking about that, either.

[Rudeboyelvis]

OMG evil white people. Again. Yawn.