Baltimore riots

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/police-settlements/

Freddy Gray's arrest record:

•March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
•March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
•January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
•January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute
•December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
•December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
•August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
•January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
•September 28, 2013: Distribution of narcotics, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, second-degree assault, second-degree escape
•April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, violation of probation
•July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to distribute
•March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
•March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to manufacture and distribute
•February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance
•August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, violation of probation
•August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
•August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
•July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance (2 counts)

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Freddy Gray's arrest record:

•March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
•March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
•January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
•January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute
•December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
•December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
•August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
•January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
•September 28, 2013: Distribution of narcotics, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, second-degree assault, second-degree escape
•April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, violation of probation
•July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to distribute
•March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
•March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to manufacture and distribute
•February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance
•August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, violation of probation
•August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
•August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
•July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance (2 counts)

Drug dealer, burglar, liar,etc. Society/ tax payers will be better off without him IMO.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Arletta

Drug dealer, burglar, liar,etc. Society/ tax payers will be better off without him IMO.

Wow I wouldn't go that far. The Judicial System failed him as he obviously belonged in prison. What I'm wondering is how did he survive all those police beatings (at least 18) previous to him being killed?

What many here don't know, especially those who have never lived in big cities is Police know who the bad guys are. Neighbors know who the bad guys are. And above all family members know who the bad guys are. The media portrays the police as pulling up to the kid with no reason, neglecting to divulge his previous criminal record as if it doesn't matter.

I guess nothing beats the ratings that come with a good riot.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Wow I wouldn't go that far. The Judicial System failed him as he obviously belonged in prison. What I'm wondering is how did he survive all those police beatings (at least 18) previous to him being killed?

What many here don't know, especially those who have never lived in big cities is Police know who the bad guys are. Neighbors know who the bad guys are. And above all family members know who the bad guys are. The media portrays the police as pulling up to the kid with no reason, neglecting to divulge his previous criminal record as if it doesn't matter.

I guess nothing beats the ratings that come with a good riot.

His Rap sheet could be 20 pages but in our country you are afforded a trial. You don't show up after a trip to the station dead with your spinal cord nearly severed. That may happen at the hands of the Tonton macoute in Hati but should NEVER happen in the United States. Now I'm sure you will justify it by saying 99% of all offenders are brought in alive .

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

His Rap sheet could be 20 pages but in our country you are afforded a trial.

This guy never got a fair trial or rather a trial that was fair to the State (society). Unless Johnny Cochran came back from the grave.

Face it the media would let us believe criminals especially black criminals are being locked away for trivial drug crimes yet this guy beat the system at least 18 times.

And I agree with you he did deserve a trial and not to be brought to trial in a body bag but there are some facts out there that are being ignored because it doesn't fit the narrative MSM is seeking and as a result is enflaming the protesters inclined to act out violently.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

This guy never got a fair trial or rather a trial that was fair to the State (society). Unless Johnny Cochran came back from the grave.

Face it the media would let us believe criminals especially black criminals are being locked away for trivial drug crimes yet this guy beat the system at least 18 times.

And I agree with you he did deserve a trial and not to be brought to trial in a body bag but there are some facts out there that are being ignored because it doesn't fit the narrative MSM is seeking and as a result is enflaming the protesters inclined to act out violently.

The only fact is he was brought in Dead and that is NOT how it works in our country. You citing his rapsheet is well STRAWMAN.

[GPK]

How can you not love the mother that came out, found her son taking part in the riots, and smacked his punk ass around in front of everyone?

https://gma.yahoo.com/baltimore-mom-...opstories.html

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

His Rap sheet could be 20 pages but in our country you are afforded a trial. You don't show up after a trip to the station dead with your spinal cord nearly severed. That may happen at the hands of the Tonton macoute in Hati but should NEVER happen in the United States. Now I'm sure you will justify it by saying 99% of all offenders are brought in alive .

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Arletta

Drug dealer, burglar, liar,etc. Society/ tax payers will be better off without him IMO.

too bad it took so long for them to kill him....i know death was the proper punishment.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by Danzig

too bad it took so long for them to kill him....i know death was the proper punishment.

It was.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Arletta

It was.

that's....gross.
are you from indonesia or something? they're about to line up some drug dealers in front of a firing squad. i didn't realize drugs should draw such a harsh sentence.
or that the cops get to decide someone is to die, sans trial, lawyer, etc. how chilling the some people hold other peoples constitutional rights, and civil rights, so cheaply.
what if it was you, arletta? if a cop looked at you and made the decision to give you a 'rough ride' in a van? but...that would be different, right? would neeever happen to you?

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that's....gross.
are you from indonesia or something? they're about to line up some drug dealers in front of a firing squad. i didn't realize drugs should draw such a harsh sentence.
or that the cops get to decide someone is to die, sans trial, lawyer, etc. how chilling the some people hold other peoples constitutional rights, and civil rights, so cheaply.
what if it was you, arletta? if a cop looked at you and made the decision to give you a 'rough ride' in a van? but...that would be different, right? would neeever happen to you?

It's a never ending vicious cycle.. drugs go to the kids, whom turn may into future drug dealers whom sell it to more kids (if they don't overs dose).
One less loser drug dealer, in the world is not something I will lose any sleep over.. The guy was a POS that obviously was never going to become an "upstanding" citzen and didn't have any respect for the law.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Arletta

It's a never ending vicious cycle.. drugs go to the kids, whom turn may into future drug dealers whom sell it to more kids (if they don't overs dose).
One less loser drug dealer, in the world is not something I will lose any sleep over.. The guy was a POS that obviously was never going to become an "upstanding" citzen and didn't have any respect for the law.

His lack of respect for the law in no way excuses wrongdoing or excesses by the police. You should absolutely lose sleep that some in the pay of our govt think they can overstep our guaranteed rights under the constitution. And keep in mind, no drugs or illegal objects were in greys possession at the time of arrest. Id also remind you that many people redeem themselves after early mistakes.

Fifth Amendment
Main article: Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.[71]

Your rights don't go away after being arrested or because of previous run ins. There are no asterisks or fine print in our documents. They don't apply only to likable people.

Did you learn in us. History who the defense attorney was for the british soldiers accused in the boston massacre? That man was warned not to take their case, that they'd be found guilty, that hed ruin his reputation if he represented them.
John adams took the case, because he supported the rule of law that all are to be given a fair trial, all can face their accusers. He won the that case and it certainly didn't harm him.
Our freedoms are lessened and we are not really free, if they are limited to people deemed worthy.
Because....how small the numbers of the worthy could become.


As for the kids buying.....that's their moms fault according to some.