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Old 11-04-2014, 06:02 PM
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I'm not sure if that was sarcasm, but you meant to tell me that Moreno getting smacked silly to the point that Javier almost fell off didn't affect his chances of getting the lead? Bayern was no where near clear of either Shared Belief or Moreno to have crossed over in a safe manner.
He's not even remotely close to saying that.
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Old 11-04-2014, 06:09 PM
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He's not even remotely close to saying that.
If it was not sarcastic, the way his post read to me was that Moreno was not fast enough or ridden aggressive enough to lead. I don't see how one can deduce that because the image showed that Bayern was not in a position to clear him and the force he took to knock him sideways halted his forward momentum. Bayern would not have been able to clear him if Garcia didn't cause the chain reaction to have Moreno bulled over.
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:50 PM
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Always a good read - notice the photo too

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Old 11-04-2014, 10:14 PM
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Always a good read - notice the photo too

http://www.drf.com/news/hovdey-rule-...-track-classic
Yeah, that was very well said by Hovdey
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:14 AM
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:28 AM
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Always a good read - notice the photo too

http://www.drf.com/news/hovdey-rule-...-track-classic
So well said, and it sounds a lot like what Privman said on ATR yesterday.

And thanks to Hovdey for giving voice to what I thought while listening to Beyer yesterday about Shared Belief's position in the turn, and doing a much better job than I ever could have.
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Old 11-05-2014, 11:05 AM
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http://www.drf.com/news/hovdey-rule-...-track-classic
aka "Offlee Wild's Revenge". yep, good read. thanks for the link.
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WTF? Not sure where this overhead footage has been... http://www.hrtv.com/videos/2014-bree...-classic-bump/
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WOW! With such a long inquiry, how does the director in the truck not show this to the viewing audience at least once? That has to be an NBC camera, right?
Definitely caused some disruption but it was not a "slam" as the head on implied. Thanks for the new look.
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And if Colmus doesn't pronounce Bayern guilty on the break, the uproar is muted. when did he become a steward?
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:04 PM
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If it was not sarcastic, the way his post read to me was that Moreno was not fast enough or ridden aggressive enough to lead. I don't see how one can deduce that because the image showed that Bayern was not in a position to clear him and the force he took to knock him sideways halted his forward momentum. Bayern would not have been able to clear him if Garcia didn't cause the chain reaction to have Moreno bulled over.
You seemingly understand his post, yet you don't.
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