Havre De Grace Retired

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Again, evasion.

Let's clean this up nice and neat so you can be on your way.

You:
"the vet isnt even recommending treatment like shock wave. Just 60 days stall rest and hand walking."

The vet:
"In a lesser horse we would rehabilitate, probably using stem cell therapy, but it takes a year to fully resolve, and it usually reduces a horses quality...we should stop her racing career."

Yeah, he's not recommending any special treatment...just retirement.

As far evaluating lameness, again, you have been completely turned around and bent over a barrel by Riot.

Neither Riot nor anyone else in this thread was involved in the examination of Havre De Grace, so any purported skill in lameness evaulation is irrelevent. What is relevant is that the examining veterinarian noted that Havre De Grace was "1/5 lame" on his written report. Non-examining veterinarian Riot noted that Havre De Grace was "not lame" on her DT post.

Who exactly is trying to be a better judge than whom here?

minor issues can show up on radiographs and MRI's that cause no physical lameness to the horse.

Is this horse visably lame? no (or at least not likely.. i havent seen the horse, nor would I be able to tell if I did see that horse, but a 1 / 5 tells you the horse is not visably lame)

does the horse have an issue? yes (in this case desmitis in the RF middle distal sesamoidean ligament)

according to the report, the vet is most concered with this issue affecting other ligaments in the RF if the horse is raced or trained. That kind of thing happens ALL the time. one minor issue (some times not even visably seen) starts a domino effect and now the horse is severly lame.

a 1.5 on a flexion test is a pretty minor finding.

so no, the horse will not physically appear lame. The horse has desmitis as shown on the radiograph. If they were real concerned about this finding, there are many ways of treatment which the vet does not seem neccessary.

a 1.5 on a flexion would make me concerned that lameness could occur in the near future. give her stall rest instead of training which is hard on a horses' legs and the horse should stay happy and pain free.

Since its so damn subjective and this arguement is lame.. you can win Rollo.