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Old 12-12-2011, 10:52 AM
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lo. imo, a less than .500 team is a crappy team.
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The Eagles are 5-8. they are having a terrible season. but they still have the talent to win any individual game when they play well.

someone who is 7-1 in the national football league is doing a hell of a job. doesnt matter who they are playing. The only team that truely has no shot at winning on a given week are the Colts. and last time I checked, Tebow hasnt played them.

There are a lot of arguements that can be rationally made against tim tebow. His competition is not one of them.
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Old 12-12-2011, 10:57 AM
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There are a lot of arguements that can be rationally made against tim tebow. His competition is not one of them.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:02 AM
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thankfully i can not view youtube.

ask anyone who's ever played or coached in the nfl if its easy to go 7-1.

The niners lost to arizona yesterday. at this level, every single victory is earned.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:08 AM
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thankfully i can not view youtube.

ask anyone who's ever played or coached in the nfl if its easy to go 7-1.

The niners lost to arizona yesterday. at this level, every single victory is earned.
It's a lot easier to go 7-1 when you play mediocre teams or teams without their starting QB AND star RB.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:15 AM
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It's a lot easier to go 7-1 when you play mediocre teams or teams without their starting QB AND star RB.
it takes a lack of perspective of how good nfl players really are to degrade the broncos for winning 7 of 8 games.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:38 AM
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it takes a lack of perspective of how good nfl players really are to degrade the broncos for winning 7 of 8 games.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:26 PM
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there is a major difference between the best of the best of the best in the world (NFL players) and the cheap crap Zenyatta was racing against in California.

Unfortunately, you dont have to go through high school, college, the combine and the draft to enter in synthetic Grade 1 races.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:03 AM
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The Eagles are 5-8. they are having a terrible season. but they still have the talent to win any individual game when they play well.

someone who is 7-1 in the national football league is doing a hell of a job. doesnt matter who they are playing. The only team that truely has no shot at winning on a given week are the Colts. and last time I checked, Tebow hasnt played them.

There are a lot of arguements that can be rationally made against tim tebow. His competition is not one of them.
of course level of competition matters. when they played a better team, they got owned. detroit isn't even the best team in the league and they crushed denver. considering the competition gives you some idea of what this team can look forward to.
i hope they beat the pats-but hell, the skins almost beat they and they're crappy-and that's my team! but i can be honest and objective when it comes to looking at them. do i expect denver to win next weekend? no. that's not hating, that's just based on assessing the two teams.
when denver gets to the playoffs and starts playing only other top teams, just how far do you think they'll get?
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:08 AM
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of course level of competition matters. when they played a better team, they got owned. detroit isn't even the best team in the league and they crushed denver. considering the competition gives you some idea of what this team can look forward to.
i hope they beat the pats-but hell, the skins almost beat they and they're crappy-and that's my team! but i can be honest and objective when it comes to looking at them. do i expect denver to win next weekend? no. that's not hating, that's just based on assessing the two teams.
when denver gets to the playoffs and starts playing only other top teams, just how far do you think they'll get?
they'll get as far as their defense takes them.

it takes a lack of perpective of how good nfl players really are to degrade the broncos for winning 7 of 8 games.

at the time when the lions beat denver, they were considered one of the best teams in football. I guess Tebow deserves the criticism that he is 7-1 instead of 8-0.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:11 AM
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according to the football experts on this board.. The Green Bay Packers are the only team in the NFL that isnt crappy because they havent lost.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:17 AM
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they'll get as far as their defense takes them.

it takes a lack of perpective of how good nfl players really are to degrade the broncos for winning 7 of 8 games.

at the time when the lions beat denver, they were considered one of the best teams in football. I guess Tebow deserves the criticism that he is 7-1 instead of 8-0.
no one is degrading them! at least no one i've heard, read...

to be honest, i'd love for them to win out. it would crack me up immensely to see so many who completely discounted tebow and co to do that. but do i expect it? no. that doesn't make me a hater. that makes me a realist.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:22 PM
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no one is degrading them! at least no one i've heard, read...

to be honest, i'd love for them to win out. it would crack me up immensely to see so many who completely discounted tebow and co to do that. but do i expect it? no. that doesn't make me a hater. that makes me a realist.
i dont think you are a hater. I've just said that the competition arguement is an arguement that "haters" use. because they are making up talking points that lack perspective because tebow keeps doing something they dont think he can do.. win.

I dont think the Broncos will beat the Patriots on sunday. the Pats are a top 3 team in football IMO. but what will be idiotic, is if the pats win, everyone who doesnt root for Tebow will be "hey look and see.. Tebow sucks" and he'll still be 7-2 for a team he took over at 1-4 and everyone predicted they put tebow in so they can get the first pick in the draft.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:24 PM
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if DT makes that 55 yard TD catch he let slip through his hands... and Praters first 29 yard FG isnt blocked.. and the Broncos put up 20 points on Urlacher, Peppers, etc when they had those points in their grasp.... would you guys still be talking the same crap about the Broncos offense?

Would the broncos top 2 recievers be anything more than 4th or 5th WR's on 90% of NFL teams?
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:34 PM
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if DT makes that 55 yard TD catch he let slip through his hands... and Praters first 29 yard FG isnt blocked.. and the Broncos put up 20 points on Urlacher, Peppers, etc when they had those points in their grasp.... would you guys still be talking the same crap about the Broncos offense?

Would the broncos top 2 recievers be anything more than 4th or 5th WR's on 90% of NFL teams?
I have been saying it since the start of the thread. They have no skill position players. Thomas is OK and young and fast. He also drops balls that Tebow puts right on his hands. He would be an up and coming 3 on most teams. Hes the 1 in Denver. Huge test this weekend for Denver I think we learn a lot more about them. Pats are my team and I have them as the #3 best team in the NFL behind Green Bay and Baltimore right now. Lets see if Denver is even competitive. It wont be a shock if they are.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:34 PM
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i dont think you are a hater. I've just said that the competition arguement is an arguement that "haters" use. because they are making up talking points that lack perspective because tebow keeps doing something they dont think he can do.. win.

I dont think the Broncos will beat the Patriots on sunday. the Pats are a top 3 team in football IMO. but what will be idiotic, is if the pats win, everyone who doesnt root for Tebow will be "hey look and see.. Tebow sucks" and he'll still be 7-2 for a team he took over at 1-4 and everyone predicted they put tebow in so they can get the first pick in the draft.
too true.
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